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Old 9th October 2003 | 15:59
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Wee Weasley Welshman
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I am distrusting that an instructor would cheerfully send off their student whilst pointing to the local CBs.

I am resigned to the fact that most PPL's lapse within 5 years.

I despair of the poor quality of instruction you can find out there.

I am cynical by nature and with regard to aviation training this has stood me in good stead.

Phoenix Rises - stop being precious. I never called you a liar. I asked when this event occurred - just out of curiosity as to what the weather may actually have been like that day. Could have been isolated CB day or a mid August thunderstorm strewn sky. Big difference.

Feel free to stuff my good wishes wherever is your personal preference.

Cheers,

WWW


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Circuit basher - it was never my intent to provide a feelgood factor nor is CRM relvant here - this is an internet discussion forum and nothing more.

On Private Flying there is naturally an esprit d'corps that biases every thread towards the poor old student - to the detriment of the slack hour building instructors and greedy lying school owners. OK - thats the nature of the forum and fair enough.

I am not one who will virtually by default believe everything written here. If something sounds improbable I'll wade in with my size 9's and make no apology for that. I still DON'T BELIEVE that PR's instructor knowingly and cheerfully sent him off solo into a hazardous CB environment. I DON'T BELIEVE it.

I can understand that may be his perception but if so it must be wrong.

As a FI you have a legal duty of care to your student. FI's have and do get prosecuted if a student ends of dead or injured. I know FI's who have faced trials and believe me its quite scary to have your fate balanced by 12 people and a judge who know NOTHING about aviation or normal flight training procedures.

You can go to jail for manslaughter for sending a student off into innapropriate weather. This happened to a Prestwick instructor who was entirely blameless and totally professional. Nonetheless he seriously had to consider going to prison.

With that backdrop FI's are exceedingly cautious about weather conditions - particularly for early solo exercises.

Which is why I DON'T BELIEVE some of the things described by the instigator of this thread.

I'm not getting angry and don't need a chill pill. This is, after all, only a silly little online discussion between a few people who will never meet and are constricted by the very limiting medium of text based conversation.

I offered Mr Rises the advice of seeking a few ground hours with an independent FI to ascertain just what he has missed out on in his training to date. I believe that to be good advice. So armed he could set about his training provider to ensure that he is adequately prepared for his skilltest. I also advised him that trying another school should be considered.

Don't feel that me being a Moderator on another forum or me being a somewhat retired FI gives me a fig of authority or duty to be Mr Nice. Feel free to call me all the names under the sun and castigate everything I say for the rubbish no doubt some of it is. Thats what PPRuNe is all about. Anything else would be horribly sterile and not half as popular.

Cheers

WWW

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