Originally Posted by
potatoflying
Hey all! I've been to a presentation from THY.
1. They confirmed that they no longer use the DLR and at the moment they haven't replaced it with anything else.
2. Also salaries for expats (I don't know about locals) have increased.
3. FOs now get on average about 27k TL (about 4k euros) a month.
4. At the beginning you also get 20 days annual working days leave
5. and 7 casual.
6. Type rating for my case still remains at 18k EUR for A320/B737.
I am at THY, while jumping away ..
So much BULL**** they tell you and you easily accept that? Be smart and think, before you act.
My tip to you is :
Go there only, if you need to built up hours, if you want to fly day and night with almost no rest, if you do not care about safety.
Here, you get the truth:
RE 1: No matter, they won`t be able to hire a high number of pilots for bull**** conditions, if they were continuing the DLR qualifications.
And vice versa, DLR won`t accept to give their good reputations for a bull**** test.
RE 2: Very easy and very sure about
: SALARY IS EQUAL FOR LOCALS AND EXPATS!
RE 3: I doubt 27K TL in average !!! Maybe in the Bonus-Month (March, June, Sep, Dec) But not in regular month, without overtime payment and without per diems, etc.
By the way, just to give you an idea, how much worse the situation is: 2 years ago, per-diems were cut from being paid by hourly time away, and if I remember correct, 12h or more was a complete day, into being only, if away 24hours. Also bear in mind the downhill path of TL. The forecast is 7 TL/EUR soon, which will affact the banks in Turkey, who are expacted to crash by 7.1 exchange rate.
RE 4: What is beginning for you (or the THY team). After 1 YEAR !!!! You will be able to benefit from vacation, not a single day before. AND: You ALWAYS in all years of employment, you need to work a full year to be entitleled for the 20days. If you do a month unpaid leave, you loose all!!! There are so many unfair tricks THY uses, so do not count on it. Also: The month you have vacation, you will loose partially OFF days. That means, they do not take the working days for vacation only, but also the OFF days to turn it into vacation days.
RE 5: What a big lie !!! Yes, in my contracts it says so. But depending on the will of the THY, and in real, at this time, no chance. And, if you do get it, you have unpaid leave, resulting in what you see in number 4 above.
RE 6: I highly doubt, that there is a difference in bond or payment for locals and expats. Most probably the difference is, what you qualification you bring with you. On top, actually they do the TR in IST, the costs are in TL. But they ask you, and they have asked the cadet pilots for EUR bond. With the crashing TL, the cadets are not able any more to pay all tha back. Or other pilots, who NEED THEIR SALARY for their live.