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Old 31st Jul 2018, 22:19
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jonkster
 
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Originally Posted by Brercrow
I am not saying that the Earth accelerates the aircraft laterally. You have just made that up. The aircraft is accelerated by the aerodynamic forces acting on it. Read the link again.The whole thing! There are diagrams!
not trying to make stuff up, apologies if I misunderstand what you are saying but I am not getting what you are saying.

Your argument (as I read it) is that in a constant wind, an aircraft in a constant rate turn, will have (small) changes of airspeed as it moves from a headwind (relative to the ground) to a tailwind (relative to the ground). Is that correct?

Would you agree in this situation that the only forces that are directed laterally on the aircraft are thrust and drag and inclined lift, all are acting due to interaction with the air?

The angle of bank doesn't change so the lateral component of lift is constant.

We do not change thrust.

The aircraft can only generate an acceleration (which would be required to change the airspeed that you say happens) is if we change drag - that is the only force we have left (as far as I can see).

Why does drag change?

The only way I can see that changing is because airspeed changes but that is assuming the effect we are trying to find the cause of - it would appear to me to be the airspeed changes because the drag changes and the drag changes because the airspeed changes therefore the airspeed changes... ?? ie we are assuming the effect we are trying to prove occurs.

I am not getting where an unbalanced force can come from that causes the (small) airspeed changes you claim are occur.

Now if the wind velocity varied (eg a gust or windshear in descent/climb etc) then that would cause a change in airspeed but not in a constant wind. What am I missing here?
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