About the only exciting thing one can do with a seaking and pax is fly sideways to let a breeze into the backdoor!
Crab - you have to let go, now. The mil was then and times have changed.
This forum's about civvy street. You and I both know this cnut flew at or beyond the flight envelope when he didn't need to be anywhere near there - for this particular occasion.
His willie was driving, not his hand!
Let's all move on now shall we, this is getting soooooo boring.