Silky You missed my point I never said it made him an airline pilot infact I said it was not the case. The guy in his 152 IFR in Pommy land is getting heaps of experience not unlike Mr Tornado. I agree with you. And should he join an airline that 152 experience should be worth alot. But is it...? No, he must have a few thousand hours asleep in the bunk to be considered experienced. We are abit off the thread here.