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Old 29th May 2018 | 08:06
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Goldenrivett
 
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Hi vilas,
These are serious things you don't continue as normal when the aircraft has gone through extreme manoeuvres.
I agree that jet upset is a serious thing - but surely the whole point of upset training is to learn how to regain control without over stressing the aircraft. In the article I referenced the "BA general manager flight operations, Lloyd Cromwell Griffiths, says that Watson's recovery of control was classic. He smoothly rolled the wings level and then pitched the nose up to regain level flight. Cromwell Griffiths says that 2.3g pitch up was applied, and the IAS did not exceed 240kt."

China airline B747 on way to San Fransisco only with loss of number 4 engine rolled -176 degrees and pitched -57degrees in a dive from 41000ft to 9800ft. He managed to land at SFO. Check the FAA report.
I believe China Airline B747 upset was crew induced after an engine flamed out at cruise FL, autopilot remained in control with no rudder applied, attempts to engine relight (way outside the relight envelop) failed, meanwhile the speed continued to decay until control was lost when the autopilot was unable to keep the wings level. (still no rudder applied) During recovery they pulled 4.8g and 5.1g, outboard elevator was torn off, a hydraulic system was lost and part of the landing gear was left extended. No wonder they diverted to SFO (destination LAX)

Hardly the best example of how to recover from a jet upset.

The aircraft was a write off.
Apparently not. According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Airlines_Flight_006
"After repairs were made to the plane, it returned to service on April 25, 1985. It continued in service for nearly 12 years until it was leased to China Airlines' sister company, Mandarin Airlines, on January 1, 1997"
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