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Old 6th May 2018, 11:34
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Originally Posted by cjad100
This was a serious incident that could have resulted in loss of life approaching 1,000 souls. And there was considerable ethical malpractice in the CVD being deleted at the end of a flight involving such a serious incident. These factors alone necessitate a full enquiry. Not a scratch? Yes - based on the actions mainly of alert pilots on the taxiway. This was a horrendous incident with 60 feet separation or less between fully loaded aircraft.

Regardless of the above - civil aviation pilots generally carry hundreds of pax in airplanes worth over $100m. That carries a responsibility. If you don't like the idea that in the case of a serious incident, relevant personal factors are included in the formal accident report, then don't fly. It's been part of the job for decades and any responsible flyer should completely agree with it.

If the details are irrelevant, then fine, but home life and rested status are directly relevant to human factor safety.
cjad, I do not know if you're a professional pilot or working in aviation in any capacity, but your idea here is undermining the very essence of a 'just' safety culture. Your post implies that the pilots are already guilty of something. The only way that they should be considered guilty of something is if they intentionally did or omit to do something that would break the law. The fact that they went around 'proves' they had no intention to slam their aeroplane into the others lined up on the taxyway.

If your start the investigation with the intention to 'hang them high', you'll never learn anything because the crew will simply refuse to cooperate. Publishing their names has already been tremendously damaging to the people involved.

This is why ICAO is trying to investigate incidents and accidents with the explicit intention NOT to apportion blame.

From what I can see so far, the only thing the crew have been guilty of, is being human. It will be very interesting to see what the outcome of this investigation is. I'm sure it must have involved some kind of lapse of situational awareness due to some kind of visual illusion of some kind. The interesting question would be how to avoid this from happening again in the future.

Only if the investigation reveals some kind of carelessness or recklessness, should this go to a court of law. Only AFTER the crew have been convicted of some wrongdoing (and that is questionable at best), should their names have been made public knowledge.
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