Originally Posted by
pilotchute
Duxnutz,
I could have agreed with you 2 years ago when regional pay was $20 an hour but some regionals pay nearly $50 an hour now. If they don't they will soon.
I'm pretty sure all the pilots that would have come out of the woodwork have already appeared.
The major Airlines in the USA are literally stripping hundreds of pilots a month from the regionals. FedEx and UPS are also hiring like crazy.
Right, the Majors are stripping away pilots. they are stripping away pilots because they are offering attractive terms of employment and the regionals are not. Yes, there has been some slow, reluctant change, but you'll also notice that most of the changes are not large changes in the entire pay scales, but things like signing bonuses, retention bonuses, which mainly make things more attractive to new hires, and then just temporarily. that's not to say that there have been no increases to the regional pay scales, but demo9nstrbly, those changes have not been significant enough to cause pilots to change their minds about leaving.
Originally Posted by
pilotchute
There are less than 100 pilots in the USA on E3 visas so if you think that will make a difference to terms and conditions then you need to rethink your views.
Two Responses to this.
1) It isn't how many are here right now, it's how many will this grow into.
2) It's a matter of degree, not a binary situation, in that there's some defined number, below which will not affect the market pressures on terms and conditions, and above which will. Any number of participants will serve to some degree to ease the pressures on improvements. Obviously 100 pilots has less of an effect than 5,000 would, but it's misguided to say that there's no effect.