TTN, Roving, and Training Risky, thanks for your comments on my ambiguity on the ATA perspective. They are accurate, pertinent and highlight the importance of gender and allied elements of the RAF. But these discussions are a red herring to the program and deserve a thread of their own. I was not referring to the gender or importance of the ATA, but on the fact that in a program of limited time and large subject matter, that a non-RAF element was given enough prominence when so many large swathes of RAF elements were ignored.