No hints of the navigator trying to assume control in either of those reports.
Sorry H Peacock, I have to agree that the above is a fairly crassly worded statement (perhaps deliberately so from a poster with so few posts - what do they call it on t'other site - a sock puppet?). To me, that statement infers the navigators were "jack" and took the "easy" way out leaving the pilots to their fate.
If it had been worded something like "in those two cases would the navigator have been able to stabilise the aircraft at a safe altitude?" then I'm sure the responses would have been less of a
disappointing arrogant PPRuNe response
However, I am surprised no one has added that there is a reason why many navigators are navigators.
