Whinging about 17 hrs in economy. Back in the past, I'd travel to the UK 3 times a year to visit family. Work a full day in the office, jump on the burner in Sydney, land at LHR, jump in a hire car and drive to Newcastle in time or family dinner then clubbing in South Shields. The next morning was interesting, working out whos bed I was in and where the heck I was. Sigh, .........those were the days.