Skipness, you are correct, I have asked that question a number of times. I know you are a big supporter of Lhr expansion and I respect your opinion, I just see is as a monopoly that is determined to not let Lgw get a foothold in the long-haul business market. Keep the whole business travel market at Lhr then all can charge higher fares. We are told yields are higher at Lhr, surprising that isn't it. A self fulfilling prophesy, isn't it? The whole business travel market is set up to support Lhr, right down to FF programmes, deals, big travel agents. A not very flattering article in the Sunday Times yesterday on how Lhr manages it's finances. Just another reason why Lhr should not be allowed to expand this time, we will all pay for it.