Cheers Boomerang, not quite sure what you meant about the DG licence though, did you mean that I wouldn't need one? I thought it was pretty much mandatory up thata way. Is it like a one day course or more like a one week course....is there a course? It would have to be a couple of hundred bucks as well wouldn't it, any info appreciated, otherwise I might have to get off my ass (similar to a donkey) and ring around like a normal person. cjam