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Old 16th Feb 2018, 11:45
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Ozgrade3
 
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Flaps, Old v New design.

Was asked a question the other day about old style flaps(727, 737 classic, 737-400 v new style, A380 etc. Hitting the internet has come up with all sorts of graphs, but not the answer.

Classic aircraft have 3 stage Fowler flaps that at take-off setting extend a large distance behind the trailing edge of the wing. The 727 take-off flap setting is a good example.

New aircraft, especially A380, 777, 737NG has at a guess 1/3 of the Fowler action.

Can someone explain to a simple instructor how the the new design of flap provides the same amount of lift. I have searched but there's nothign that explains the answer.

While I'm it, the A380 has a noticeably slower Vr and Vref. Is that a function of the huge wing, or wing design (airfoil tech) or am I missing something.

Take-off, flap retraction schedule. Old aircraft 727,707 it seems their acceleration during the acceleration phase (3 stage?) takes ages. Heavy takeoffs can take 7 mins to get to flaps up (watched over dozens of videos). A380 gets to clean speed in 2 mins or so. My guess better thrust to weight of new aircraft resulting in better 3rd stage segment.


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