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RAT 5
I'm not familiar with the area of US ATC in these scenarios, but it would seem this is not a new or temporary STAR. It's been there for decades and therefore ATC should be very familiar with it, used it and given clearances about in on numerous occasions, and be aware of the dangers. Are there mitigating circumstances for such an error? I've messed it, but was this under radar? In EU radar is responsible for terrain separation, as many vectors take you off the published STAR routing. However, there are areas, and I've experienced circumstances, where it pays to be very vigilant and ask to confirm if in doubt. Only once have I refused a descent clearance and it was corrected. It had similarities to this in that the descent altitude would have put me very low on profile, so there was no problem caused by maintaining higher altitude for a few more miles until i was comfortable.
Post #6 has the radar vectoring chart.