roving, we are all only too well aware of Crown Immunity. Even if that were not the case, the problem here is that Sean Cunningham's aircraft was unairworthy because the UK Military Air Regulator, the MAA aka the MOD, had failed in its duty to ensure otherwise. The apologists as ever want to ram a stovepipe onto this tragedy, just as they did with the Mull Chinook, the Iraq Hercules, the Afghanistan Nimrod, and every other airworthiness related fatal air accident that have accounted for some 75 lives in such accident threads in this forum alone. Rather than wanting to set heads on spikes, be they JO pilots, SOs and 1* VSOs, or Company CEOs, we need to wrest Regulation and Investigation from the maw of the MOD, and make them independent of it and of each other. Unless and until that happens the urgent reform of both processes will be stillborn. More people will then die needlessly in unairworthy UK Military aircraft. Let the Crown be immune, just stop the cover up, admit the actions that led to this scandal, and allow proper reform to start. Time is of the essence (as no doubt you would be prone to say), for the longer this mess continues the longer that UK Air Power is fatally compromised.