Progress Wanch. You couldn't be more wrong. He is actually someone who nearly all who flew with him thought very highly of. Most of you miss the point. As in many things in life, the true nature of the situation only coalesces as time passes. Not always easy to see the clear facts at the time, but eventually they come into focus. That will be the experience with many of you who stay in HK. When you are in your early thirties, working for the 'best' airline in the business, and being treated well, you don't necessarily have the foresight to see this development that would have at that time been 30 years in the future. Of course, most of you geniuses will not have anything like this happen to you :/ The POINT of the post was that this is another reason to not stake your claim to a job in a foreign land. Most won't stay here, and who knows what your family situation will be like at that point in your life. Perhaps take a bit more time to consider the situation that i've described, and apply it to your own situations. The sarcasm isn't really needed fyi.