The best outcome is for JC pilots and QF mainline pilots is for them to go on the mainline seniority list and be on QF shorthaul terms and conditions. OK I’m hearing you regarding they haven’t gone through the HR shambles to be accepted by Qantas, but hey at the end of the day they are flying passengers who booked Qantas between Australia and New Zealand. Yes I know Cobham and Network do as well, but we have to make a start with the JC pilots. Because the opportunity is there. And if I was in JC right now there would be no way I would vote up any agreement that doesn’t give at least 5% plus per year pay rise. QF are desperately short of crew and they need you! Good luck to all you JC crew regardless of the outcome.