I might add, in reference to Sheps comments regarding Herb Kelleher. It's hard to find a greater indictment of our management than the larger than life example Herb set as it pertains to respecting and treating his employees well. It sickens me to see how diametrically opposite we are to that noble and successful example of REAL leadership. Unlike the hollow and contemptible management (I can't say leadership) we have. None of our management would be fit to have Herb wipe his shoes off after he walked through a cow pasture.