LEVEL: New Low Cost long haul from IAG Group
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IB is a brilliant deal for somebody wanting a life in MAD and the possibility of long haul, but many will even drop that for other things (especially money).
Anyway this is not a threat about IB... but reality is that recent joiners (post 2015) have been, in the vast majority, people with (very) low experience or joining from Vueling. There are a few from other airlines, of course, but it is far from being the majority of them. My experience is that the vast majority of Senior First Officers in other airlines are not interested in IB level 11, although I have to say IB is probably the best career you can have in Spain... if you want to live on a suitcase.
And of course we know how things work in Spain and in Iberia in particular, so IB is not for everybody. But that's another story.
I hope LEVEL goes forward, but I can anticipate very low contracts and possibly the worst conditions in the industry.
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I wish LEVEL and their crews the best and a long life, but as I said earlier on, many people in Spain suspect that their intention is different, but everything could happen.
And no, I don't hope they have the worst conditions in the industry (for long-haul) obviously.
And no, I don't hope they have the worst conditions in the industry (for long-haul) obviously.
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What's the crack behind the name Level then?
Surely there must be a better name like Tryingtoshaftnorweigen.com
Surely there must be a better name like Tryingtoshaftnorweigen.com
Additionally, Norwegian is highly proficient at “shafting” themselves without help from others, as demonstrated last summer;
“Thousands left stranded over the weekend as Norwegian Air cancels 30 flights”
http://cphpost.dk/news/thousands-lef...0-flights.html
This is a smart move by IAG in establishing a separate low cost airline. If IAG legacy carriers had lowered their fares below Norwegian’s on the same competitive routes, Norwegian may have had an antitrust (US) and/or competition law (EU) claim against IAG. This way they are competing on the same Level.
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Just the name LEVEL is a potential risk to flight safety.... Every climb/descent clearance will contain the brand name. If its also their call sign, god help us.
"Climb flightLEVEL 350"..... "Confirm that was for LEVEL 350 to climb?"
"Climb flightLEVEL 350"..... "Confirm that was for LEVEL 350 to climb?"
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Responding to Level, Norwegian’s paid mouthpiece said the competition is welcome. He may wish to reconsider.
Level ticket prices are two-thirds lower than Norwegian’s:
http://www.independent.co.uk/travel/...-a7639771.html
Level will increase its fleet to at least 30 aircraft:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...with-level-arm
Level ticket prices are two-thirds lower than Norwegian’s:
http://www.independent.co.uk/travel/...-a7639771.html
Level will increase its fleet to at least 30 aircraft:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...with-level-arm
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SAMCA please first of all learn proper english, it hurts my eyes. And second, you dont know what you are saying at all. Of course people from ryanair, easyjet and norwegian, captains from Vueling or Copa joined Iberia last year... Iberia is not what it was, but its the best you can get.
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Responding to Level, Norwegian’s paid mouthpiece said the competition is welcome. He may wish to reconsider.
Level ticket prices are two-thirds lower than Norwegian’s:
Level: British Airways' new sister airline is offering transatlantic fares dramatically lower than rivals | The Independent
Level will increase its fleet to at least 30 aircraft:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...with-level-arm
Level ticket prices are two-thirds lower than Norwegian’s:
Level: British Airways' new sister airline is offering transatlantic fares dramatically lower than rivals | The Independent
Level will increase its fleet to at least 30 aircraft:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...with-level-arm
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In the South America - Europe market Level and Norwegian will not kill each other. Will hurt the traditional carriers. The south america pass looks for price. GDP is lower here than in europe. They travel via hubs with 1 or 2 stops just to save 100 bucks. A lot or the trafic generated to spains is VFR (visit friend and relatives). Migrants. They care about prices. LATAM, Iberia, Aerolineas Agentinas, Avianca, will be hurt one way or another.
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SAMCA please first of all learn proper english, it hurts my eyes. And second, you dont know what you are saying at all. Of course people from ryanair, easyjet and norwegian, captains from Vueling or Copa joined Iberia last year... Iberia is not what it was, but its the best you can get.
Hi,
Besides what Samca said, Iberia is the best you can get comparing to.....
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SAMCA please first of all learn proper english, it hurts my eyes. And second, you dont know what you are saying at all. Of course people from ryanair, easyjet and norwegian, captains from Vueling or Copa joined Iberia last year... Iberia is not what it was, but its the best you can get.
Please don't lie people selling your sh... Iberia and the contract offering to the new joiners is the worst contract offered by a spanish company in the History. Very far from Ryanair, Norwegian and Eeasyjet LOCOS and practically nobody in my company went through the Assestment. That's the reality.
Spanish conpanies are crab. Iberia, the first one, followed by Vueling, Volotea (cheap copy of VUELING), Iberia Express even worst and so...
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Comparing to any other airline in South Europe, from my point of view, but I maybe be wrong ofc.
SAMCA I just said that you were lying, thats all. And I know many ppl like you and me over 35 who cant join Iberia, so I understand your frustration mate, but chill out. (Btw not spanish and never been in Volotea's assesment, I leave that for the young ones)
SAMCA I just said that you were lying, thats all. And I know many ppl like you and me over 35 who cant join Iberia, so I understand your frustration mate, but chill out. (Btw not spanish and never been in Volotea's assesment, I leave that for the young ones)
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Wasn't this tried decades ago ? Seem to recall BA 757 ops out of Spain or Portugal. On line applications only defeated me. Pursued it & finally got a humorous response from the "Selection Team" regretting my non-selection but patronisingly suggesting that " no doubt, a man of your capability will find an outlet for his talents ". Honestly , still got the email that I keep in my "Rejected" folder. Anyway, just wondered if it ever happened.
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my English Level is enough for people who try to understand me.
I suggest you get better in typing your thoughts in an international language that should be anyway a tool of your trade, then get your facts right and finally come back to expose them.
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Comparing to any other airline in South Europe, from my point of view, but I maybe be wrong ofc.
SAMCA I just said that you were lying, thats all. And I know many ppl like you and me over 35 who cant join Iberia, so I understand your frustration mate, but chill out. (Btw not spanish and never been in Volotea's assesment, I leave that for the young ones)
SAMCA I just said that you were lying, thats all. And I know many ppl like you and me over 35 who cant join Iberia, so I understand your frustration mate, but chill out. (Btw not spanish and never been in Volotea's assesment, I leave that for the young ones)
So believe me, I work for the airline that I want to work for... I'm not frustrated