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Old 28th Feb 2016, 18:47   #1 (permalink)
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Flybe

I know they are recruiting heavily. Any news from the front at Flybe, improved terms / conditions / possible pay rise?
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Old 28th Feb 2016, 18:54   #2 (permalink)
 
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In a word, No / No and No, which is why people are leaving.
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Old 1st Mar 2016, 09:14   #3 (permalink)
 
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What news regarding Direct Entry Commands?? Are they on the horizon?
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Old 1st Mar 2016, 09:36   #4 (permalink)
 
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According to their website..

Careers < Corporate | Flybe UK


Yes........
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Old 1st Mar 2016, 10:26   #5 (permalink)
 
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Any up to date info regarding f/o pay, roster, time to left seat etc. Would be appreciated. Ppjn seems a bit out of date.
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Old 1st Mar 2016, 12:14   #6 (permalink)
 
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PPJN isn't really that out of date at all.

Seems like some of the more vocal flybe contributors on here have left for pastures new.
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Old 1st Mar 2016, 17:52   #7 (permalink)
 
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That may be but you don't know what I'm coming from!? Just after any info that's all.
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Old 1st Mar 2016, 20:14   #8 (permalink)
 
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Whilst Flybe might not seem that great to an outsider, it really isn't that bad an employer when compared to some outfits out there. Yes there are issues, but there are issues in every company is there not? Yes people are leaving, and I'm one of them, but I've had 9 good years at Flybe and I wouldn't change my time there. I've got a fantastic job which I love, but it's time for a change for personal reasons.

As for "don't touch with a barge pole", I don't think there's any credence in saying that at all, particularly if you've never worked there.

Direct entry commands are happening as we speak.

PPJN is about up to date with pay.
Roster - you'll be worked to EASA FTLs, it's a target, not a limitation.
Time to command - depends how many hours you have, but you generally need 500 with Flybe, and the command process has just got even harder. If you have 200hrs then expect just over three years.
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Old 2nd Mar 2016, 08:48   #9 (permalink)
 
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What can a captain expect to take home each month on the pay slip?


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Old 9th Mar 2016, 07:28   #10 (permalink)
 
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How would anybody describe a BHX lifestyle on the Dash in terms of routes, nightstops, days off , early to lates etc etc?? - would be helpful. An answer to Gabbers post above would be handy as well! Thanks

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Old 9th Mar 2016, 07:45   #11 (permalink)
 
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The salaries are on PPJN, typically 3500.
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Old 9th Mar 2016, 08:13   #12 (permalink)
 
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I was, until recently, Birmingham based.

Expect lots of night stops - I often got 12-15 nights away despite requesting being on minimum night stops. I don't expect this will change that much even though apparently the BRU contract is supposed to be locally provided for now. Don't expect a work/life balance as such 5 long days away with 2 days at home is seriously hard going with families. There is fatigue reporting in place now - before there was a denial to accept it even existed. The BHX routes themselves have more or less recently been used for Line Training such is the demand at the moment, hence a lot more time away from home. Expect roster changes and disruption too and you won't be disappointed.

I left to restore some of that life/work balance and it's been a revelation.

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Old 9th Mar 2016, 09:11   #13 (permalink)
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That's because there is no such thing as minimum night stops despite what they say.
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Old 9th Mar 2016, 09:22   #14 (permalink)


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That's right, Chesty. This is the big misconception by alot of pilots. The minimum/normal/maximum nightstop preference is just that, it's a preference. "I would like minimum nightstops if you can, please", but with BHX being a base that supports alot of nightstopping it is virtually impossible to get your preference. It should improve once the Brussels contract is fully crewed locally.
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Old 9th Mar 2016, 09:28   #15 (permalink)
 
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I agree - it's a paper preference, and whatever the company needed, you'd end up with.

I don't foresee it getting any easier though with nightstops and time away from home - judging by what I've seen, a lot of flight deck are still being sent to Brussels and with further bases almost ready for opening (Hannover - Lyon, MXP etc... Incorporating at least 1 nightstopping dash), it won't get any easier.
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What would manchester be like as a base?

What is the likelihood of progression like? i.e. onto jet etc.
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Old 9th Mar 2016, 12:27   #17 (permalink)


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Manchester is fine as a base. It's not the easiest as far as getting to the crew room but the base is good.

The jet is done purely on seniority. In the past people have waited 8 years, at the moment people are getting it with less than a year with the company. Everything depends on alot of factors which include attrition, future jet plans, where you bid and the like.
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Old 9th Mar 2016, 13:20   #19 (permalink)


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Old 9th Mar 2016, 22:09   #20 (permalink)
 
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That's right, Chesty. This is the big misconception by alot of pilots. The minimum/normal/maximum nightstop preference is just that, it's a preference. "I would like minimum nightstops if you can, please", but with BHX being a base that supports alot of nightstopping it is virtually impossible to get your preference. It should improve once the Brussels contract is fully crewed locally.
Do you get paid extra for night stops? Otherwise why does anyone select maximum? Unless they really don't like their wife...
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