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Old 29th Oct 2015, 19:01
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Picking up every poorly constructed blind line going!
Oops, I was talking about LHR, my bad.

Personally I think, for the Junior Captain, that Carmen is far, far better at balancing work/leave than the seniority 'fest' that is Bid Line. Junior skippers at LHR get screwed every time with the 'it'll be your turn soon' mentality when we have a stagnant upper echelon workforce.

The pay point capping is a relic from the past that needs to be addressed but you've got no chance of that with the ivory tower 'everybody must meet their individual cuts' mentality.

I like operating out of Gatwick, shame the management have screwed the crews though.
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Old 29th Oct 2015, 22:09
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People joining now will have a pay cap at PP24(ish) at LGW. Plenty of time to get senior on some other fleet if they so desire.
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Old 30th Oct 2015, 09:24
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Is BA SH realistically commutable on a full time contract? If not, how amenable are BA to offering part-time options?
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Old 30th Oct 2015, 12:19
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It depends on where you want to commute from
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Old 30th Oct 2015, 13:38
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Either Edinburgh or Glasgow would work.
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Old 31st Oct 2015, 08:49
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Commuting from Scotland can be made to work, though it can be hard work when junior. Many commute from both GLA and EDI for SH but you will spend a fair amount of time in hotels etc down in London while on reserve or for an early start etc. Remember that there is no staff travel for the first 6 months as well. Many pilots rent somewhere local for the first year or so to settle in and see how it could work for them.
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Old 31st Oct 2015, 15:30
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hi guys, any rumours doing the rounds if the current intake will extend beyond december 1st ? I know the closing for now is Nov 1st but historically they generally extend...any info anyone ?
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Old 1st Nov 2015, 13:06
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SIM Assessments

Hello all, is anyone aware of what's happening behind the scenes with regards to SIM assessments? I passed Day 2 back in September and was told to keep an eye on the website for SIM assessment availability but despite checking everyday there has been nothing apart from a couple of cancellations which I was beaten to. When I contacted recruitment (end Sep) I was told Nov slots would be released imminently.
Would I be right in guessing the remainder of us in purgatory will be SIM checked along with the guys and girls going through the latest DEP recruitment campaign?
Any info would be appreciated - the wait is killing me !!
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Old 2nd Nov 2015, 10:12
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Slots were released end of September for November. They went very quickly! I have mine end of November. I'd call the pilot recruitment team and ask for an update, that's what I did! They are very helpful.

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Old 3rd Nov 2015, 09:46
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Any more inside information on what is going on? We were told by recruitment that allocation of non-rated DEP courses would have started by this week.

Are issues with internal bids holding things up? Any rumours for hold poolers to feed off gratefully received!
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Old 3rd Nov 2015, 09:57
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Are issues with internal bids holding things up?
Results of internal bids still not released (that's a definite)

Possibility of a problem because of a shortfall of internal bidders for short haul commands....(that's a strong rumour)


Any rumours for hold poolers to feed off gratefully received!
You're welcome
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Old 3rd Nov 2015, 10:01
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There are certainly issues with internal bids. Or more accurately the system (Crystal) that allocates courses to bidders. Many variables need to be input, such as the network plan, and training capacity, to name but two. Assumptions also need to be made such as rates of sickness, which are not easily predictable as they have grown rapidly recently. EASA rostering!? Retirements 'should' recommence in less than 12 months. Other factors such as part time availability/take up need to be considered. Finally, both type and engagement freezes are currently being waived as there are insufficient internal bidders for certain positions. Some of those positions may surprise you?

It's a pretty complex and fluid picture at the moment, that will definitely mean that in a few years time we will have another pilot surplus.
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Old 3rd Nov 2015, 13:23
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Is RHS on "the whale" one of those?
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Old 4th Nov 2015, 12:14
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Very unlikely.
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Old 4th Nov 2015, 12:35
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Commuting

I commuted once for 6 years and again I am going back to it early next year.
It is hard work, even if you still have 20 years service like myself.
Also it is expensive at £94 a pop.
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Old 4th Nov 2015, 21:15
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Date of entry and also suitability (hours and/or type ratings) bearing in mind quite a few of the hold poolers won't have the hours for long haul. No idea if the rumour is true but funnily enough it was something that was recounted to me also at Gatwick today.
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Old 5th Nov 2015, 07:23
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I wouldn't get too excited about any rumours floating around at the moment. The Crystal output is due soon and it is at this stage that rumours breed like rabbits. Many are fuelled by desire and mischief rather than anything solid. Wait and see but don't pin your hopes on rumours.

The latest thing to emerge from a semi-reliable source (BALPA PnP reps) is that DECs or a supplementary bid for SH Command now looks unlikely. In the light of my previous paragraph make of that what you will!
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Old 5th Nov 2015, 08:29
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Should have written them down at the presentation, but could someone post the pay scale for first 8 years (that's what the slide had) for SH and LH FO?

Thanks!
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Old 5th Nov 2015, 09:42
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The latest on the rumour front is they are now starting to plan the 2016 DEP courses and getting in touch with a few people to check their hours and eligibility for Long Haul.

Fingers crossed the phonecalls with offers of courses won't be too far behind

toplux - at the roadshows they said you would be picked out of the hold pool based solely on date of joining and eligibility for the slot they are looking to recruit for - so for 777 say, they pick the person longest in the hold pool with LH min hours. Similar obviously for those with appropriate type ratings.
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Old 5th Nov 2015, 10:52
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following up on the above, I received an email recently asking for my type rating and hours on type plus a few other questions...
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