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Hi guys,
First question,
Have an invite from PrivatAir to conduct first step of the recruitment process next week, which is a psychological test. Anyone know what type of test this is, is it similar to a DLR/compass testing?
Second question,
They are looking to hire pilots with Switzerland contracts meaning we have to pay our taxes in the country, anyone know how big the taxation rate is for non Swiss workers?
First question,
Have an invite from PrivatAir to conduct first step of the recruitment process next week, which is a psychological test. Anyone know what type of test this is, is it similar to a DLR/compass testing?
Second question,
They are looking to hire pilots with Switzerland contracts meaning we have to pay our taxes in the country, anyone know how big the taxation rate is for non Swiss workers?
Not up to date but the old system was pay as you earn until you have a permit C or earn more than X...
Federal tax plus cantonal tax plus village/city tax. Depending where you live the differential was around 20% depending on the latter.
We had to pay church tax but if your village didn't have a church of your denomination then you could get a refund.( won't tell you where a mate spent the refund!)
Paid roughly 1/3rd in deductions in comparison to 1/2 in the UK.
Federal tax plus cantonal tax plus village/city tax. Depending where you live the differential was around 20% depending on the latter.
We had to pay church tax but if your village didn't have a church of your denomination then you could get a refund.( won't tell you where a mate spent the refund!)
Paid roughly 1/3rd in deductions in comparison to 1/2 in the UK.
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The psychological/aptitude test is similar to DLR but much easier. It starts with logical thinking, maths, symbols, memory, all that kind. But never as extensive as DLR (or Swiss).
You will also have an interview with two senior captains.
You will also have an interview with two senior captains.
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Thanks guys, they are talking about bases in either Brazzaville or Pointe Noire in Congo with possible transfer in the future to europe base 737NG OPS if crew needed.
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Check out this tax calculator for tax rates.
http://en.comparis.ch/steuern/steuervergleich/default.aspx
As you are not living in Switzerland I guess you need to find out where you will be taxed within Switzerland to determine what you pay. Tax varies from canton to canton, and even town to town. I would guess you will be taxed where the company has it's HQ??
Tax in Switzerland is not in bands like the Uk. It is increasing rate vs income graph.
http://en.comparis.ch/steuern/steuervergleich/default.aspx
As you are not living in Switzerland I guess you need to find out where you will be taxed within Switzerland to determine what you pay. Tax varies from canton to canton, and even town to town. I would guess you will be taxed where the company has it's HQ??
Tax in Switzerland is not in bands like the Uk. It is increasing rate vs income graph.
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Are the Privatair BBJ crews still flying a total of 4-5 scheduled routes for LH? What other airlines? Do the BBJs also get some ad-hoc charter to break-up the monotony a bit?
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If you work the Lufthansa flights you can expect 4-5 flights a month. If you get a rotation in Brazzaville you might end up with 3-4 flights, as the Africa rotations sometimes get unexpectedly extended.
Good luck to you.
Good luck to you.
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I guess if you get hired by Privatair now as a BBJ FO, you could upgrade to Captain in a few years on the Bombardier CS100. Looks like they will fly it across the pond from LCY if current plans hold:
PrivatAir (Geneva) has placed a firm order for five Bombardier CS100 airliners and has taken options on an additional five CS100 aircraft.
Based on the list price for the CS100 aircraft, the firm order contract is valued at approximately $309 million US, and could increase to $636 million US if the five options are exercised.
PrivatAir was founded more than 30 years ago and operates a large fleet of commercial and business aircraft to provide private charter and private airline services. Its specialized services include exclusively business class flights on behalf of several major network airlines. As a superb example of the versatility of the world’s only all-new aircraft in its segment, the CSeries aircraft acquired by PrivatAir will be delivered in an all-business class configuration.
PrivatAir (Geneva) has placed a firm order for five Bombardier CS100 airliners and has taken options on an additional five CS100 aircraft.
Based on the list price for the CS100 aircraft, the firm order contract is valued at approximately $309 million US, and could increase to $636 million US if the five options are exercised.
PrivatAir was founded more than 30 years ago and operates a large fleet of commercial and business aircraft to provide private charter and private airline services. Its specialized services include exclusively business class flights on behalf of several major network airlines. As a superb example of the versatility of the world’s only all-new aircraft in its segment, the CSeries aircraft acquired by PrivatAir will be delivered in an all-business class configuration.
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The "rumour" is that Privatair will support an LCY-based startup or fly it themselves using CS100s on premium service and challenge BA.
Here is the original story about the startup from December (again, not fully sure if Privatair will support the startup or offer the service itself):
New airline plans London-NY link
December 20 2011 at 10:44am
Bankers may be languishing in popularity polls but a new airline wants their business and is prepared to challenge British Airways for it once the financial crisis is over.
A British venture called Odyssey Airlines hopes to start non-stop all-business class flights from London City to New York and other locations using 10 newly-ordered Bombardier CSeries passenger jets, aviation industry sources told Reuters.
The disclosure lifts a mystery surrounding the identity of one of the buyers for a Canadian jet which aims to break into a market long dominated by Airbus and Boeing.
Train and plane maker Bombardier said in June it had sold two sets of 10 aircraft to customers that preferred to stay anonymous, one of which was an “unidentified European buyer” and the other was an already established airline. Bombardier declined any further comment.
The start-up directly targets BA which offers twice-daily all-business flights using Airbus A318 aircraft from London City, a small business airport near the capital's financial district which can handle only moderately-sized jetliners.
The idea is to capture demand for bankers and other professionals for transatlantic travel without a time-consuming journey across the capital to London's congested Heathrow. Using the future CSeries jet would also eliminate the need for a fuel stop in Ireland when travelling westbound to New York.
The new airline may hope to entice executive travellers away from other business jet schemes such as NetJets.
But its path is strewn with potential hazards and previous failures.
Several all-business airlines have been killed off by high costs and the difficulty niche airlines face in matching benefits offered by big players. US-based Maxjets filed for bankruptcy in 2007 and UK-based Silverjet collapsed in 2008.
“It is difficult for small companies to make money in this type of market. Business travellers usually belong to frequent flyer schemes and loyalty programmes are difficult to crack,” said John Feren, executive vice president of US lessor Aviation Capital Group, owned by insurer Pacific Life.
Analysts say that to succeed, new entrants into business travel must have an alliance with a major airline.
Even then, the number of previous casualties suggests the margin for error is small.
“If you find a niche that looks attractive, it just takes two seconds for somebody to come in like a freight train and usurp the market,” said Ray Neidl, Senior Aerospace and Airlines Analyst, Maxim Group investment bank in New York.
“It is a tough environment because of high oil prices, tight capital markets and all of the consolidation which has made the competition stronger.”
NON-STOP FLIGHTS
Odyssey Airlines is keeping a low profile, as is common for new entrants in the cut-throat travel industry, but at least two web addresses - www.odysseyairlines.com and www.odyair.com - have been reserved for “Future Odyssey Airlines International”.
The company was incorporated in the UK in September 2010 and its main director is Adam Scott, according to public UK records.
When contacted via an email address hosted on the company's web domain, a person identifying himself as Adam Scott replied from a personal account and denied all links with the project.
Reached later by telephone he denied any links with the airline industry and said he could not explain how he had received email via Odyssey Airlines' web domain.
A former Air France executive said to have been involved in the project also denied any involvement.
None of the sources agreed to be named because the project has yet to be launched. The CSeries is a major bet too for Bombardier. Its decision to enter the $100 billion-a-year jet market partially prompted Airbus and Boeing to revamp their best-selling narrowbody jets.
Bombardier's firm orders since then have been somewhat sluggish with 133 confirmed sales, a tenth of the combined total of the revamped alternatives. Industry analysts monitor the types of buyer on the backlog as well as the number of orders.
The CSeries is due to enter service in late 2013 and Odyssey would not be likely to start operations before 2014 or 2015, hoping Canada's new jet will change the competitive landscape.
Built from new lightweight materials, the CSeries aircraft could be attractive because it would be able to cross the Atlantic in one hop when carrying a small load of passengers.
When travelling westbound, BA's twice-daily flights have to stop in Ireland to refuel. That is because the A318, the smallest member of the Airbus fleet, lacks enough range to make the whole trip against prevailing headwinds. - Reuters
Here is the original story about the startup from December (again, not fully sure if Privatair will support the startup or offer the service itself):
New airline plans London-NY link
December 20 2011 at 10:44am
Bankers may be languishing in popularity polls but a new airline wants their business and is prepared to challenge British Airways for it once the financial crisis is over.
A British venture called Odyssey Airlines hopes to start non-stop all-business class flights from London City to New York and other locations using 10 newly-ordered Bombardier CSeries passenger jets, aviation industry sources told Reuters.
The disclosure lifts a mystery surrounding the identity of one of the buyers for a Canadian jet which aims to break into a market long dominated by Airbus and Boeing.
Train and plane maker Bombardier said in June it had sold two sets of 10 aircraft to customers that preferred to stay anonymous, one of which was an “unidentified European buyer” and the other was an already established airline. Bombardier declined any further comment.
The start-up directly targets BA which offers twice-daily all-business flights using Airbus A318 aircraft from London City, a small business airport near the capital's financial district which can handle only moderately-sized jetliners.
The idea is to capture demand for bankers and other professionals for transatlantic travel without a time-consuming journey across the capital to London's congested Heathrow. Using the future CSeries jet would also eliminate the need for a fuel stop in Ireland when travelling westbound to New York.
The new airline may hope to entice executive travellers away from other business jet schemes such as NetJets.
But its path is strewn with potential hazards and previous failures.
Several all-business airlines have been killed off by high costs and the difficulty niche airlines face in matching benefits offered by big players. US-based Maxjets filed for bankruptcy in 2007 and UK-based Silverjet collapsed in 2008.
“It is difficult for small companies to make money in this type of market. Business travellers usually belong to frequent flyer schemes and loyalty programmes are difficult to crack,” said John Feren, executive vice president of US lessor Aviation Capital Group, owned by insurer Pacific Life.
Analysts say that to succeed, new entrants into business travel must have an alliance with a major airline.
Even then, the number of previous casualties suggests the margin for error is small.
“If you find a niche that looks attractive, it just takes two seconds for somebody to come in like a freight train and usurp the market,” said Ray Neidl, Senior Aerospace and Airlines Analyst, Maxim Group investment bank in New York.
“It is a tough environment because of high oil prices, tight capital markets and all of the consolidation which has made the competition stronger.”
NON-STOP FLIGHTS
Odyssey Airlines is keeping a low profile, as is common for new entrants in the cut-throat travel industry, but at least two web addresses - www.odysseyairlines.com and www.odyair.com - have been reserved for “Future Odyssey Airlines International”.
The company was incorporated in the UK in September 2010 and its main director is Adam Scott, according to public UK records.
When contacted via an email address hosted on the company's web domain, a person identifying himself as Adam Scott replied from a personal account and denied all links with the project.
Reached later by telephone he denied any links with the airline industry and said he could not explain how he had received email via Odyssey Airlines' web domain.
A former Air France executive said to have been involved in the project also denied any involvement.
None of the sources agreed to be named because the project has yet to be launched. The CSeries is a major bet too for Bombardier. Its decision to enter the $100 billion-a-year jet market partially prompted Airbus and Boeing to revamp their best-selling narrowbody jets.
Bombardier's firm orders since then have been somewhat sluggish with 133 confirmed sales, a tenth of the combined total of the revamped alternatives. Industry analysts monitor the types of buyer on the backlog as well as the number of orders.
The CSeries is due to enter service in late 2013 and Odyssey would not be likely to start operations before 2014 or 2015, hoping Canada's new jet will change the competitive landscape.
Built from new lightweight materials, the CSeries aircraft could be attractive because it would be able to cross the Atlantic in one hop when carrying a small load of passengers.
When travelling westbound, BA's twice-daily flights have to stop in Ireland to refuel. That is because the A318, the smallest member of the Airbus fleet, lacks enough range to make the whole trip against prevailing headwinds. - Reuters
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What's the latest with hiring at Privatair? Three questions:
1. Are all newhires getting shipped to the African operation or will some fly the European-based flights? Does Privatair hire for specific bases or can you pick your initial base?
2. Where have Privatair been sourcing their recent newhires? I have heard that a number of ex-Ryanair drivers have been hired (obviously the 737NG type and experience helps).
3. Lastly, do Privatair use the BBJs for adhoc charter work anymore or are they singularly focused on scheduled flying?
Cheers - PMs also welcome.
1. Are all newhires getting shipped to the African operation or will some fly the European-based flights? Does Privatair hire for specific bases or can you pick your initial base?
2. Where have Privatair been sourcing their recent newhires? I have heard that a number of ex-Ryanair drivers have been hired (obviously the 737NG type and experience helps).
3. Lastly, do Privatair use the BBJs for adhoc charter work anymore or are they singularly focused on scheduled flying?
Cheers - PMs also welcome.
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are flying for PrivatAir in the Congo. That's all I know of.
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Looks like a 757 is 'going down' to Congo as well...
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