PPRuNe Forums

Go Back   PPRuNe Forums > Flight Deck Forums > Tech Log
Forgotten your Username/Password?
PPRuNe Email Register FAQ Calendar Advertise Mark Forums Read

Tech Log The very best in practical technical discussion on the web


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 25th November 2007, 19:27   #1 (permalink)
ZBB757
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Leeds
Posts: 6
Prop (engine/thrust) reverse use on FlyBE Dash 8-400

Sorry may have used wrong term but not sure what its called on a turbo prop.

Last week i flew LBA - BHD with FlyBE. During taxi at both airports and on both flights i noticed that it seemed that the pilots were using reverse thrust to slow the plane down when taxiing. Is that normal?? I have flown the Dash 8 previously and not noticed this occurance.

Thanks

Paul

ZBB757 is offline  
Reply
Old 26th November 2007, 15:44   #2 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: tanzania
Posts: 430
hi

sorry dont mean to be rude to you but ive just completed a ground school course on the q300 so may be i can answer ur question correctly, wht i think u reffering to is called discing and not reverse thrust,u can slow down the dash like tht without use of brakes which as u know is always a good thing...i know u must have heard a noise tht sounded like reverse thrust when landing but discing sounds the same as in both cases the pilot changes the blade angle...

keep it up there fellows,

no more 406pilot
406pilot is offline   Reply
Old 26th November 2007, 19:52   #3 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Up North UK
Posts: 50
Correct 406, reverse thrust is not routinely used on the Q400 by flybe - nor is it required. The significant retardation effect you experienced is 'Discing', caused by selecting what on other types may be referred to as Ground Fine / Ground Idle, where the flat surface of all blades is presented to the direction of travel. Discing is used before braking to control speed on the ground.
Pontius's Copilot is offline   Reply
Old 26th November 2007, 20:03   #4 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Europe
Posts: 152
AKA Beta range (beta blade angle)
stellair is offline   Reply
Old 26th November 2007, 21:16   #5 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: flyover country USA
Age: 66
Posts: 2,433
Turboprops using short airfields often use reverse for (very effective) braking.

With a propeller it's done by actually moving the variable-pitch blades to a negative blade angle.

Turbofan blades are fixed-pitched, so for reverse thrust, the exhaust is redirected forward either by clamshell buckets, or by blocker doors and an array of vanes.
barit1 is online now   Reply
Old 26th November 2007, 23:10   #6 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Leeds
Posts: 6
Thumbs up

Thanks for your replies. I didnt think it was reverse thrust but I was unsure to the correct term.

It was only the 3rd and 4th flights on a turbo prop and, being more used to Jets, just wondered what it was. I love the noise made by a turbo prop, although I did notice that sat behind the engines is quite a lot noiser than in-front even with the Q400's anti noise/vibration system.

Paul
ZBB757 is offline   Reply
Old 27th November 2007, 11:25   #7 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: JAAland
Posts: 39
The reverse on the Dash8 may also be used for "backing" on the ground if your operator allows you. This is for sure valid on the 100-300 series. Donīt know for sure on the 400?
SlowAndSilly is offline   Reply
Old 27th November 2007, 17:26   #8 (permalink)
excrab
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: The middle
Posts: 183
S&S

Its the same but subject to a 10kt side wind limitation (can't remember what the limits were on the 200/300)

excrab is offline  
Reply
Old 28th November 2007, 15:10   #9 (permalink)
406pilot
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: tanzania
Posts: 430
same

hi, same limit on the 100/200/300 but use of nose wheel steering is prohibited purely because of nose wheel castoring effects after 60 degrees of travel

does anyone know where to download the best q300 cockpit photos ? wife is wondering why i gave up the 732 right seat for the dash8 left seat,wanna show her off...didnt see anything nice on airliners.net


keep it up there fellows.

no more 406pilot

406pilot is offline  
Reply
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes


Posting Rules
vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Reverse thrust 2A Questions 8 5th September 2005 16:55
Reverse Thrust flyandbefree Tech Log 7 31st August 2003 23:02
Reverse Thrust usage vs. Engine Life safety_worker Tech Log 2 22nd June 2003 17:00
Thrust reverse/twin engine jet aircraft 411A Tech Log 17 28th September 2002 17:53
Turbo-prop uncommanded reverse (PT-6) Cyclic Hotline Tech Log 1 25th January 2002 06:33


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 01:02.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC7
Đ 1996-2008 The Professional Pilots Rumour Network

As these are anonymous forums the origins of the contributions may be opposite to what may be apparent. In fact the press may use it, or the unscrupulous, or sciolists*, to elicit certain reactions.

*"sciolist"... Noun, archaic. "a person who pretends to be knowledgeable and well informed".