Please Help Get This Petition to Parliament to Legalise the Broadcast of ATC (UK)
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Please Help Get This Petition to Parliament to Legalise the Broadcast of ATC (UK)
Hello,
I have created a petition to legalise the broadcast of live ATC on sites like liveatc.net within the UK!
The petition requires 5 signatures before approval so I hope that some of you will be on board. Many thanks.
Luke
https://petition.parliament.uk/petit...Lv03LpLuiWnleq
I have created a petition to legalise the broadcast of live ATC on sites like liveatc.net within the UK!
The petition requires 5 signatures before approval so I hope that some of you will be on board. Many thanks.
Luke
https://petition.parliament.uk/petit...Lv03LpLuiWnleq
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Any particular reason for the objections? ATC discipline and flight safety doesn't appear to have collapsed in the overwhelming majority of countries where rebroadcasting is permitted.
I expect there's some 'reason' that the UK shoud remain in the same special class as Spain, Kazakhstan and North Korea ( prohibited ) but not the USA, Canada, France, UAE, Turkey, Venezuela, Madagascar, Ukraine, Russia, China... even Greece, which is notoriously hostile to spotters, doesn't ban it!
At present UK-originting ATC-related communications can be legally recorded and broadcast by receivers in [ Republic of ] Ireland, when they have reception, so it's not as if UK pilots and controllers are currently entirely 'protected'. Wander too far over to the west coast or to NI and you might be rebroadcasted. Horror! I have not yet researched whether this is also the case for the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands.
I expect there's some 'reason' that the UK shoud remain in the same special class as Spain, Kazakhstan and North Korea ( prohibited ) but not the USA, Canada, France, UAE, Turkey, Venezuela, Madagascar, Ukraine, Russia, China... even Greece, which is notoriously hostile to spotters, doesn't ban it!
At present UK-originting ATC-related communications can be legally recorded and broadcast by receivers in [ Republic of ] Ireland, when they have reception, so it's not as if UK pilots and controllers are currently entirely 'protected'. Wander too far over to the west coast or to NI and you might be rebroadcasted. Horror! I have not yet researched whether this is also the case for the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands.
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Been tried before, and failed miserably.
Closed petition (298 signatures) - Refine the ATC radio traffic act to allow UK listening
Closed petition (17 signatures) - Make it legal to listen to broadcasts not meant for the general public. (ATC)
An expression involving dead horses springs to mind.
Closed petition (298 signatures) - Refine the ATC radio traffic act to allow UK listening
Closed petition (17 signatures) - Make it legal to listen to broadcasts not meant for the general public. (ATC)
An expression involving dead horses springs to mind.
I suspect Parliament has more important things to do.
Interesting and varied selection of responses over on flyer.co.uk, where the OP also promoted his petition.
I particularly liked this one:
"Pilots and controllers are generally a pretty cantankerous bunch of conservative old farts anyway, so I'm not optimistic about your chances of success."
I particularly liked this one:
"Pilots and controllers are generally a pretty cantankerous bunch of conservative old farts anyway, so I'm not optimistic about your chances of success."
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But meanwhile as Dave has pointed out elsewhere, NATS have entered the TV version of the Radio broadcast suggested here. Just need subtitles or "audio description" and we're away!
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God can you imagine the results, Its bad enough now with these cabbages eavesdropping on people doing their jobs and then in many cases posting what they though they heard all over the internet , Please dont encourage the practise by legalising it .
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<Pilots and controllers are generally a pretty cantankerous bunch of conservative old farts>
In 50+ years in aviation, of which about 35+ were in ATC I never met such people.
I won't vote for the petition because I don't see that my work (when I did work) should be of any concern to others. What are they going to try next - ATC telephone lines to be broadcast? We all know they want to snoop in the hope of having a big "scoop"..
In 50+ years in aviation, of which about 35+ were in ATC I never met such people.
I won't vote for the petition because I don't see that my work (when I did work) should be of any concern to others. What are they going to try next - ATC telephone lines to be broadcast? We all know they want to snoop in the hope of having a big "scoop"..
