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Lima Papa 01 12th Apr 2017 20:09

Please Help Get This Petition to Parliament to Legalise the Broadcast of ATC (UK)
 
Hello,
I have created a petition to legalise the broadcast of live ATC on sites like liveatc.net within the UK!
The petition requires 5 signatures before approval so I hope that some of you will be on board. Many thanks.
Luke

https://petition.parliament.uk/petit...Lv03LpLuiWnleq

Rocket Pants 12th Apr 2017 21:29

No.
Now go and finish your homework and drink your milk.

Dan Dare 12th Apr 2017 22:13

What a terrible idea. Please stop it.

Crazy Voyager 12th Apr 2017 23:00

No thanks.

El Bunto 13th Apr 2017 06:56

Any particular reason for the objections? ATC discipline and flight safety doesn't appear to have collapsed in the overwhelming majority of countries where rebroadcasting is permitted.

I expect there's some 'reason' that the UK shoud remain in the same special class as Spain, Kazakhstan and North Korea ( prohibited ) but not the USA, Canada, France, UAE, Turkey, Venezuela, Madagascar, Ukraine, Russia, China... even Greece, which is notoriously hostile to spotters, doesn't ban it!

At present UK-originting ATC-related communications can be legally recorded and broadcast by receivers in [ Republic of ] Ireland, when they have reception, so it's not as if UK pilots and controllers are currently entirely 'protected'. Wander too far over to the west coast or to NI and you might be rebroadcasted. Horror! I have not yet researched whether this is also the case for the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands.

DaveReidUK 13th Apr 2017 06:57

Been tried before, and failed miserably.

Closed petition (298 signatures) - Refine the ATC radio traffic act to allow UK listening

Closed petition (17 signatures) - Make it legal to listen to broadcasts not meant for the general public. (ATC)

An expression involving dead horses springs to mind. :O

Evanelpus 13th Apr 2017 09:02

First and last post hopefully Lima Papa.

Get yourself over to Airliners.net, they'll love you over there.

Expatrick 13th Apr 2017 10:44

I suspect Parliament has more important things to do.

DaveReidUK 13th Apr 2017 11:06

Interesting and varied selection of responses over on flyer.co.uk, where the OP also promoted his petition.

I particularly liked this one:

"Pilots and controllers are generally a pretty cantankerous bunch of conservative old farts anyway, so I'm not optimistic about your chances of success."

chevvron 13th Apr 2017 13:22

..using the handle 'Luke Picton'

Porky Speedpig 13th Apr 2017 13:39

But meanwhile as Dave has pointed out elsewhere, NATS have entered the TV version of the Radio broadcast suggested here. Just need subtitles or "audio description" and we're away!

ratchetring 20th Apr 2017 14:14

God can you imagine the results, Its bad enough now with these cabbages eavesdropping on people doing their jobs and then in many cases posting what they though they heard all over the internet , Please dont encourage the practise by legalising it .

2 sheds 28th Apr 2017 19:25

I shall start a petition to publicly broadcast Lima Papa 01 doing his job - if, indeed, he has one.

G-ARZG 30th Apr 2017 15:10

You'll have to catch him on his newspaper round....

HEATHROW DIRECTOR 30th Apr 2017 15:27

<Pilots and controllers are generally a pretty cantankerous bunch of conservative old farts>

In 50+ years in aviation, of which about 35+ were in ATC I never met such people.

I won't vote for the petition because I don't see that my work (when I did work) should be of any concern to others. What are they going to try next - ATC telephone lines to be broadcast? We all know they want to snoop in the hope of having a big "scoop"..

chevvron 1st May 2017 12:14

I once read a quote that if you ask 10 air traffic controllers the same question, you'll get 20 different answers.


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