Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Misc. Forums > Spectators Balcony (Spotters Corner)
Reload this Page >

Spotters paradise or living hell

Wikiposts
Search
Spectators Balcony (Spotters Corner) If you're not a professional pilot but want to discuss issues about the job, this is the best place to loiter. You won't be moved on by 'security' and there'll be plenty of experts to answer any questions.

Spotters paradise or living hell

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 22nd Aug 2014, 07:04
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: BHX LXR ASW
Posts: 2,272
Received 5 Likes on 3 Posts
Spotters paradise or living hell

An interesting article from the Daily Mail (for once)

Is this Britain's noisiest street? Hundreds of aircraft soar just 40ft above rooftops of Myrtle Avenue at the end of Heathrow's runway | Mail Online
crewmeal is offline  
Old 22nd Aug 2014, 07:34
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: UK
Posts: 3,080
Received 284 Likes on 158 Posts
Good old Daily Mail!!

It's amazing what can be achieved with a decent camera and lens, and as for "40ft above rooftops" if they are that low, then I would venture to suggest the aircraft are hardly following the glideslope!

Still, the motto of the Daily Mail holds up well - never let the truth get in the way of a good story!

Even though I am an enthusiast, there's no way you'd get me living on Myrtle Avenue, apart from the fact that us midlanders couldn't afford properties around there - I value the peace and relative quiet of my back garden too much!
ATNotts is online now  
Old 22nd Aug 2014, 08:03
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Reading, UK
Posts: 15,822
Received 206 Likes on 94 Posts
Slow news day ?
DaveReidUK is offline  
Old 22nd Aug 2014, 08:29
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Planet Moo Moo
Posts: 1,279
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Add to that that a huge amount of houses within the noise footprint of Heathrow have changed hands in the last 20-25 years as it, oddly enough, is one of the more affordable areas of London you have to think that they must have noticed the airport!

The noise insulation and, in many cases, triple glazing (both paid for by the Airport operator) coupled with the massive advances in engine noise technology (ironically the A380 'Behemoth' being the quietest!) has led to large reductions in the noise footprint as gathered by the noise monitoring stations.

We see this row of houses just off to the left as you come in over the farm for 27L. Those pictures needed some clever photography to produce those effects. Laterally we are a long way from the houses.

Wirbelsturm is offline  
Old 22nd Aug 2014, 10:11
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: London (Babylon-on-Thames)
Age: 42
Posts: 6,168
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
1) They're actually over a field with occasional horses and the main road, not over the houses.
2) No sane spotter would actually want to live there.
3) This is in no way, news......
Skipness One Echo is offline  
Old 22nd Aug 2014, 10:29
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Planet Moo Moo
Posts: 1,279
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
occasional horses
Is that what makes 27L a 'stable' approach????

Hat, coat, get etc....
Wirbelsturm is offline  
Old 22nd Aug 2014, 10:45
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Norfolk U.K.
Age: 68
Posts: 448
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Is that what makes 27L a 'stable' approach????
Only for TAILdraggers...
The Flying Pram is offline  
Old 22nd Aug 2014, 10:49
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Planet Moo Moo
Posts: 1,279
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
or those who like to HOOF it to the runway!


Stop........please......
Wirbelsturm is offline  
Old 22nd Aug 2014, 14:13
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Reading, UK
Posts: 15,822
Received 206 Likes on 94 Posts
This is in no way, news......
Nor is it even original, it's a blatant rip-off of a BBC article from a couple of years ago:

BBC News - Heathrow's Myrtle Avenue: A plane spotter's paradise

apart from the bit about "there are around 1,280 arrivals flights [sic] coming in and out of Heathrow every day".
DaveReidUK is offline  
Old 24th Aug 2014, 16:09
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Europe
Posts: 1,416
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
When an application was submitted in the late '90s to re-open RAF Bentwaters, as a licensed airfield for light aircraft training, heavy maintenance, cargo, a few t/prop scheduled flights to NE Europe (perhaps) and 2 - 5 arrivals and departures a week by jet passenger aircraft operating holiday flights, the local rag concocted an image of a street in Ipswich with a B747 in full landing configuration with the wheels 50 feet above the roofs. Much like some of the pics above here.

The street shown was 10.8 nm from the landing threshold, in easterly winds only, of course. At Heathrow, this would be SW of Maidenhead. (Thinks.....3 degrees...6076 ft/nm...1:60 rule....height above threshold 1,094 ft ft.)

Never underestimate the power of the Press to invent an outrage and then manufacture the images to illustrate it. It sells more papers, doesn't it?
Capot is offline  
Old 24th Aug 2014, 16:35
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Berkshire, UK
Age: 79
Posts: 8,268
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
<<(Thinks.....3 degrees...6076 ft/nm...1:60 rule....height above threshold 1,094 ft ft.) >>

Not sure I follow that. A 3 degree GP = 318 ft per nm.
HEATHROW DIRECTOR is offline  
Old 24th Aug 2014, 17:43
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Europe
Posts: 1,416
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Which is why I'm not an ATCO....I forgot to multiply the 1 degree figure (ie 1:60) by 3.....It still doesn't come out quite the same, but then 1:60 is a rule of thumb figure for quick mental navigation (drift, usually, for me), and I'm guessing that your number is precise.
Capot is offline  
Old 4th Sep 2014, 17:38
  #13 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Perth WA
Posts: 648
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Indeed, what a terrible situation to live close to - solution - knock em down and build third runway pronto....and for those who want a decent spotters terrace!.
nivsy is offline  
Old 8th Sep 2014, 07:02
  #14 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: London
Posts: 30
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
oh look, the age old argument about living near heathrow.


at the end of the day, you can't buy a house round there and complain about the noise, end of. anyone that does should quite frankly be flogged in public for their absolute stupidity.
AndoniP is offline  
Old 11th Sep 2014, 15:33
  #15 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Heathrow
Posts: 66
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
My Parents did !! although at the time they didnt know there was an Airport there !!

And while Im on here, Myrtle Ave isnt the noisiest road near the airport, Dockwell Close (hence my name) is, and I thoroughly enjoyed living there under the Trident's, Connies, 707's, 1-11s, Viscounts, Britannias etc !
Dockwell is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.