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crewmeal 22nd Aug 2014 07:04

Spotters paradise or living hell
 
An interesting article from the Daily Mail (for once)

Is this Britain's noisiest street? Hundreds of aircraft soar just 40ft above rooftops of Myrtle Avenue at the end of Heathrow's runway | Mail Online

ATNotts 22nd Aug 2014 07:34

Good old Daily Mail!!

It's amazing what can be achieved with a decent camera and lens, and as for "40ft above rooftops" if they are that low, then I would venture to suggest the aircraft are hardly following the glideslope!

Still, the motto of the Daily Mail holds up well - never let the truth get in the way of a good story!

Even though I am an enthusiast, there's no way you'd get me living on Myrtle Avenue, apart from the fact that us midlanders couldn't afford properties around there - I value the peace and relative quiet of my back garden too much!

DaveReidUK 22nd Aug 2014 08:03

Slow news day ?

Wirbelsturm 22nd Aug 2014 08:29

Add to that that a huge amount of houses within the noise footprint of Heathrow have changed hands in the last 20-25 years as it, oddly enough, is one of the more affordable areas of London you have to think that they must have noticed the airport!

The noise insulation and, in many cases, triple glazing (both paid for by the Airport operator) coupled with the massive advances in engine noise technology (ironically the A380 'Behemoth' being the quietest!) has led to large reductions in the noise footprint as gathered by the noise monitoring stations.

We see this row of houses just off to the left as you come in over the farm for 27L. Those pictures needed some clever photography to produce those effects. Laterally we are a long way from the houses.

:ok:

Skipness One Echo 22nd Aug 2014 10:11

1) They're actually over a field with occasional horses and the main road, not over the houses.
2) No sane spotter would actually want to live there.
3) This is in no way, news......

Wirbelsturm 22nd Aug 2014 10:29


occasional horses
Is that what makes 27L a 'stable' approach????

Hat, coat, get etc....

The Flying Pram 22nd Aug 2014 10:45


Is that what makes 27L a 'stable' approach????
Only for TAILdraggers...

Wirbelsturm 22nd Aug 2014 10:49

or those who like to HOOF it to the runway!


Stop........please......:=

DaveReidUK 22nd Aug 2014 14:13


This is in no way, news......
Nor is it even original, it's a blatant rip-off of a BBC article from a couple of years ago:

BBC News - Heathrow's Myrtle Avenue: A plane spotter's paradise

apart from the bit about "there are around 1,280 arrivals flights [sic] coming in and out of Heathrow every day". :O

Capot 24th Aug 2014 16:09

When an application was submitted in the late '90s to re-open RAF Bentwaters, as a licensed airfield for light aircraft training, heavy maintenance, cargo, a few t/prop scheduled flights to NE Europe (perhaps) and 2 - 5 arrivals and departures a week by jet passenger aircraft operating holiday flights, the local rag concocted an image of a street in Ipswich with a B747 in full landing configuration with the wheels 50 feet above the roofs. Much like some of the pics above here.

The street shown was 10.8 nm from the landing threshold, in easterly winds only, of course. At Heathrow, this would be SW of Maidenhead. (Thinks.....3 degrees...6076 ft/nm...1:60 rule....height above threshold 1,094 ft ft.)

Never underestimate the power of the Press to invent an outrage and then manufacture the images to illustrate it. It sells more papers, doesn't it?

HEATHROW DIRECTOR 24th Aug 2014 16:35

<<(Thinks.....3 degrees...6076 ft/nm...1:60 rule....height above threshold 1,094 ft ft.) >>

Not sure I follow that. A 3 degree GP = 318 ft per nm.

Capot 24th Aug 2014 17:43

Which is why I'm not an ATCO....I forgot to multiply the 1 degree figure (ie 1:60) by 3.....It still doesn't come out quite the same, but then 1:60 is a rule of thumb figure for quick mental navigation (drift, usually, for me), and I'm guessing that your number is precise.

nivsy 4th Sep 2014 17:38

Indeed, what a terrible situation to live close to - solution - knock em down and build third runway pronto....and for those who want a decent spotters terrace!:):):):p.

AndoniP 8th Sep 2014 07:02

oh look, the age old argument about living near heathrow.


at the end of the day, you can't buy a house round there and complain about the noise, end of. anyone that does should quite frankly be flogged in public for their absolute stupidity.

Dockwell 11th Sep 2014 15:33

My Parents did !! although at the time they didnt know there was an Airport there !!;)

And while Im on here, Myrtle Ave isnt the noisiest road near the airport, Dockwell Close (hence my name) is, and I thoroughly enjoyed living there under the Trident's, Connies, 707's, 1-11s, Viscounts, Britannias etc !


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