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aircupidon 14th Jun 2013 09:29

Indonesia p2F for low timer is back!!!!
 
It seems like the 250h requirement has been uplifted!
Heard that a batch of low timers arrive couple week to start line training.
:ok:

captjns 14th Jun 2013 12:35

Multi Engine Turbine Sea Plane required for employment?:}

squarecrow 14th Jun 2013 13:47

that's during Line training Capt.

Boeing Europe 14th Jun 2013 14:55

Hahaah @JNS sometimes I wish PPRUNE had a "like" button

captjns 14th Jun 2013 14:57

Yeah... but does the cost include the Multi Engine Turbine Sea Plane Type Rating?:}

If not perhaps Mommy and Daddy may reconsider spending that kind of money for their children so they can fly a real plane instead of Microsoft Flight Simulator.

eaglesnest1972 14th Jun 2013 17:30

Is it true folks?
Where did you get that?

TheExpatPilot 14th Jun 2013 17:55

Uh oh, just when you thought things couldn't get worse. More sob stories, ego's and Ray Ban's. :}

captjns 14th Jun 2013 19:22

Don't forget the watches that need a crane to lift:D.


Uh oh, just when you thought things couldn't get worse.
Who knows maybe Mommy and Daddy will have had enough and put their foot down.:=

Le the rug rats find their own way into the world like the rest of us had to.:ok:

VanDriver01 22nd Jun 2013 01:48

250hr rule uplifted?
 
is this true? if so when did it happen?

jetjockey696 22nd Jun 2013 06:26

Dont bother with Indonesia... the next place for P2F ego's, lay ban's and big watches to match inferior manhoods oops flying is Sri Lanka.. on the a320 for cheap price between 60-75K EURO... depending on your poison.,,:}

Even the Maldives is now a p2F haven... :}

See you there..:}:ok:

aircupidon 23rd Jun 2013 09:32

Citilink
 
All the pilots that are still coming to do their line training are all going to Citilink on the A320 thru avia Integrated.
Last week, citilink itself had an open day for pilots (local and Foreigners)
Many people attended and 20 were selected, all with zero hours.
Indonesian needs a lot of pilots and everybody knows that this 250h rules is just a bluff.

captjns 23rd Jun 2013 10:59


Many people attended and 20 were selected, all with zero hours.
To be precise... those children who had mommies and daddies who eligible for the fleecing were chosen.

eaglesnest1972 23rd Jun 2013 12:52

Guys are you serious?
Its at least 6 months that i send my cv to freaking citilink as rated pilot and now you tell me they started again to enroll kids that pay to fly...

Oh jeez...is there a chance to find a single aviation professional in that joke of a country???

sierra910 23rd Jun 2013 16:29

Well, it was only a matter of time before the rule was lifted. It never made sense in the first place, not with the demand Indonesia has.

sovereign680 23rd Jun 2013 19:34

If you pay peanuts you get monkeys, now they want the monkeys to bring their own peanuts. And they will come and make the news.

captjns 23rd Jun 2013 22:28

The monkeys are bringing their mommy's and daddy's peanuts.:*

aviatorzuckeberg 24th Jun 2013 15:54

Guys from what i heard indonesia still has the 250 hour rule for type rated pilots..............i am a type rated pilot but unable to get thru indonesian's new rule barrier.....what is the latest from indonesia??? Guys plzz no abusive language...only productive replies plzzz..thanks....

pilotchute 24th Jun 2013 23:42

250 hour rule.
 
The rule was introduced to stop one particular airline sourcing pilots on a P2F scheme. The other hurdle in place now is if you are a foreigner, to get a licence validation in Indonesia. To achieve this you have to have an interview with the Head of Flight Crew Licencing who must deem you to be of "good character".

There are a other few things that will have your application (or interview) stopped in its tracks now.

1. Having a licence issued in the Philippines.
2. Having an Indian passport.
3. Not having 250 hours on type.

If you already work for another company in Indonesia flying whatever, the 250 hour ruled seems to be negotiable. If you aren't already flying here see points 1,2 and 3.

A340rider 25th Jun 2013 08:39

Hows this good news ?? Whats the bad news.. Pilot shortage over?

FactCheck_Indonesia 25th Jun 2013 12:30

I am one of the pilots whose presence in Jakarta led to this thread being started. I have been watching it with amusement for the last few days, but decided to step in at this point because some of the claims being made are ridiculous.

The 250 hour rule is still alive and well, and that fact does not look likely to change anytime soon.

My colleagues and I were recruited - and more importantly, had submitted our paperwork - before the new rule was announced. Because of this, we were granted a one-time exception. We're the last zero-hour foreigners to start flying in Indonesia, at least for the foreseeable future.

The Citilink "Open Day" described above was Parc/Rishworth pilots who've been pushed out of Mandala heading to Citilink en masse asking if they could have a job there. They all had hours. I don't know if Citilink hired any of them, but I am led to believe the answer to that one is "no".


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