Dont worry all PanAm friends are already in indonesia stealing jobs thinking the same way, I cant fly but have shiny wings and hot chicks Im the man

PanAm,

I'm glad you are able to form your own opinions.

The last few major accidents, eg Lion Air B738 undershoot in Bali and the Asiana B777 undershoot in SFO was not a case of the technology failing, but a case of poor flying skills/airmanship. Two perfectly working aircraft, flown in to the ground (sea in the case of Lion) due to a lack of the basics of flying an aircraft.

If that's the only reason why you wish to become an airline pilot, then I seriously hope no reputable airline will hire you. I'm guessing that you're quite a high timer, 5000 - 6000 hours perhaps, but probably all on single engine pistons, perhaps most of it as a flight instructor? I don't mean any offense, but if you haven't attracted airline recruiters, or even part 135 recruiters after such experience, then that's probably telling you something about your own suitability for such operations.

If you're in it for the glamor then there's nothing stopping you from purchasing a set of epaulettes and wings at a pilot supply shop, and wearing your uniform around in the terminal building dragging along your trolley bag around, with raybans on (at night even). You don't need any flying skills for that, and this way, you'll leave the airline jobs for those who really do deserve it.

sounds like a you seen a lot of lion expat pilots... yep lot of expat pilots wearing laybans...roaming the terminals. must be suffering from photophobia....haha.

Either that or they consider their future so bright they have to wear shades to protect their eyes.

It seems the latest rumour is that a lot of Lion Air f/o's are getting jobs in Turkish Airlines on the B737NG.
Like it or not , they have made a good investment and really , are they taking these jobs from Europeans???

..... 1000hr+ NG gods of the sky.

OR they all want to be Capt Sam.(Triumph in the Skies)

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@Panam I thought you said you had TR with no experience yet now say you worked for reputable Airline. There is a useful 4 letter word and you really are full of it. Do keep spouting it as well. You are showing the world here 2 things.

1 hopefully no Airline will hire you and then no unfortunate Captain will have you on the RHS.

2 Your Mate is also a Clown to tell you what he did, thus he also must be like you worthy to wear the yellow suit. There is no point to say anymore you are clearly too naive and stuck up to learn anything.

BTW XMAS was last December. I don't celebrate it either

Panam the only thing you are proving here is your attitude problem that's all.
As I said I really hope you don't end up on the RHS with me or any one else.

Stop please
 

We should probably stop feeding pan am now. He seems to be growing stronger everyday.

Just FYI,

The last few accidents involving US airlines in the states all had pilots with P2F backgrounds from Gulfstream Airlines. It was well known as the sleaziest outfit in the states where pilots who couldn't get jobs at the better regionals went to pay for their time. Since Buffalo, where one or both pilots came from gulfstream before getting on with Colgan, the requirement to fly at any 121 carrier is 1500 hours and an ATP. Basically no more P2F in the states because it has proven fatal in several cases.

Rumour that the rule will be uplifted in August and then September and it's already October with no latest development. Are there any plans to seriously abolish the 250 rule since news has it that they only train 400 local pilots but need 1000 yearly?

I hope the rule stays there..
Sriwijaya just cut over 70 expats who has not started line training.
Some local initial pilots have been waiting more than a year to get job, that was 'stolen' fom them by p2f-ers

yeahh been hearing it for a while..no salary, just allowances doing observation flights, and they're on their own when it comes to the work permit..

most locals are going to the NGs for now though a few guys are still in CL sim

That rumour might have something to do with one of the top brass at the DGCA moving on from the DGCA for greener pastures. Yes, the guy who brought in the 250 hour rule. Usually, when the top brass goes, many of his subordinates will also be relinquished in to lesser roles within the Department. Whether there will be a change in policy after the change at helm occurs, is anybody's guess at this stage.

Were these the people who paid big money to an agent to get in to Sriwijaya? I also heard Sriwijaya is struggling to keep its head above water at the moment and may go the way of Batavia.

really struggling mate, but what can we expect? dumba** guys in the marketing all they care about is updating Facebook and Path as well as instagram..oh not to forget the excessive time wasted on 'ngopi-ngopi' and 'ngobrol-ngobrol duluan ya mas'

Stolen jobs,

Most of the guys that Sriwijaya were taking on were ex Batavia so they got preference of expats and 250 hours locals. If any locals waited a year that is why. Not that the "expats" were taking all the spots.

Don't forget also, Sriwijaya were happy to take the money from these people so maybe poor little 250 hour local guy should complain to the management of Sriwijaya instead of just saying its the expats fault.

Msian, can you please tell me where in Indonesia "smoking and chatting" isn't done on a constant bases making getting anything done in that country takes months instead of days?

Not that easy to do, due to the work permits and KITAS being company specific. Where do you get these stories from Lingdee or do you make these up yourself?