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How many INDIAN pilots will this affect.. FATA


GOVERNMENT OF INDIA

OFFICE OF DIRECTOR GENERAL OF CIVIL AVIATION
TECHNICAL CENTRE, OPP SAFDARJANG AIRPORT, NEW DELHI
IVIL AVIATION REQUIREMENTS
C
SECTION 7 – FLIGHT CREW STANDARDS,
TRAINING AND LICENSING
ERIES ‘G’ PART II
S
ISSUE II, 15
th November 2010 EFFECTIVE: 1ST DECEMBER 2010
File No.: 8/26/2010-L2
Subject: VALIDATION OF FOREIGN LICENCES OF FLIGHT CREW


(ii) The Foreign Aircrew Temporary Authorization shall not be issued in respect of Indian Nationals having valid foreign licence. They will be required to convert their Foreign license in accordance with the requirements stipulated in CAR Section 7, Series ‘G’ Part I.
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GOVERNMENT OF INDIA
OFFICE OF DIRECTOR GENERAL OF CIVIL AVIATION
TECHNICAL CENTRE, OPP SAFDARJANG AIRPORT, NEW DELHI
IVIL AVIATION REQUIREMENTS
C
SECTION 7 – FLIGHT CREW STANDARDS,
TRAINING AND LICENSING
ERIES ‘G’ PART II
S

ISSUE II, 15
th November 2010 EFFECTIVE: 1ST DECEMBER 2010
File No.: 8/26/2010-L2

Subject:
VALIDATION OF FOREIGN LICENCES OF FLIGHT CREW
1. INTRODUCTION

1.1 Under the provisions of Rule 45 of the Aircraft Rules, 1937, the competent authority may validate a flight crew licence to exercise the privileges of such license to operate Indian registered aircraft, when it has been issued by a duly competent authority of an ICAO contracting State and is for the time being in force, subject to such conditions and limitations and for such periods as considered necessary. The validation may confer on such licence the same Validity (privileges) for the purpose of operating an aircraft registered in India as if it has been granted under the Aircraft Rules, 1937. Generally a foreign license may be validated for a specific purpose and for a limited period of time. The FATA is ordinarily issued to overcome the shortage of trained Indian Pilot-in-Command.
1.2 This Civil Aviation Requirement states the requirements and the procedure for validation of foreign licences (Foreign Aircrew Temporary Authorization - FATA) under rule 45 and 133A of the Aircraft Rules, 1937.
2. LICENCE AND EXPERIENCE REQUIREMENTS
2.1 General Requirements

(i) The applicant be licensed and rated on the type of aircraft by the competent authority of a contracting State in accordance with the ICAO requirements and acceptable to DGCA India.
1 CIVIL AVIATION REQUIREMENTS SECTION 7 SERIES ‘G’ PART II 15TH NOVEMBER 2010 (ii) The Foreign Aircrew Temporary Authorization shall not be issued in respect of Indian Nationals having valid foreign licence. They will be required to convert their Foreign license in accordance with the requirements stipulated in CAR Section 7, Series ‘G’ Part I.

(iii) The foreign licence shall be valid with current ratings on the type of Indian registered aircraft proposed to be operated and shall meet the recent experience requirements.
(iv) The flight crew should have valid passport and visa.
(v) The flight crew should have current medical fitness assessment certificates (Class I) from his/her aeronautical authority issuing the foreign licence. The period of validity of such medical fitness assessment shall be as per Rule 39C of the Aircraft Rules, 1937.
(vi) For operation of Flight Radio Telephony, flight crew shall have a valid licence from contracting State’s regulatory authority or any other document issued by that Regulatory Authority.
(vii) The operator shall submit a certificate from the aeronautical authority to the effect that the flight crew for whom validation of foreign licence is being sought has aircraft ratings, FRTOL, medical, English proficiency and Incident/ accident free record and his licence shall not have been suspended in the preceding five years by such authority.
(viii) DGCA shall verify the authenticity of Foreign licence, FRTOL, Examiner/instructor ratings, Cat II/ Cat III approval, medical, English proficiency and Incident / accident free record of flight crew through e-mail from the licence issuing authority of the ICAO contracting State (a copy of the e-mail sent by DGCA shall also be forwarded to the concerned operator).
(ix) The foreign flight crew shall also submit an undertaking that the flight crew has an Incident/ accident free record for the past five years.
(x) Operator shall provide e-mail address of aeronautical authority of the foreign pilot for verification of licences & ratings.
(xi) The flight crew shall meet the flying experience requirements as laid down in para 2.2 of this CAR for validation of foreign licence and in this regard the following shall be submitted:
a) Certified copy of logbook/ e-log book and/or certified summary of flying experience by the aeronautical authority/ Chief of Operations of the last airline wherein he was employed.
Note 1. In case flying experience is not certified by the aeronautical authority, the operator shall mention that aeronautical authority does not provide such certificate and the flying experience submitted is as per the certificate provided by last employer of
2 CIVIL AVIATION REQUIREMENTS SECTION 7 SERIES ‘G’ PART II 15TH NOVEMBER 2010 the flight crew.
Note 2. The flying experience certificate provided by the last employer shall be countersigned by the applicant for issue of FATA and his present employer with whom the foreign pilot is going to flying under the privileges of FATA. The operator shall retain the log book extracts of flying experience with him for his records.
(xii) An Examiner/ Instructor rating issued by a contracting State may be considered for grant of Examiner/ Instructor privileges on FATA (documentary evidence in support of such rating from the contracting State shall be submitted). The examiner / Instructor ratings issued by the manufacturer are acceptable provided the manufacturer is authorized by the State Regulatory Authority to certify for this purpose for which the manufacturer shall submit relevant document.
(xiii) The flight crew should be proficient to communicate in English language (minimum level 4).
(xiv) The flight crew shall not be above the age of 65 years in conformity with Rule 28A of the Aircraft Rules, 1937, provided that the contracting State which issued licence allows the flight crew to exercise privileges of the licence up to the age of 65 years and a certificate is submitted by the Operator in this regard.
(xv) Where an operator needs the services of flight crew of the aircraft manufacturer for carrying out training and checks of Indian flight crew or route checks when a new aircraft type is inducted in the country, while considering a FATA for a limited number of flights/ time period, requirements of this CAR relating to passing of Air Regulation examination may be waived, provided that the operator ensures that another qualified pilot crew member having valid professional pilots licence to ensure adherence to the air regulations is on board.
(xvi) The validation of the foreign licence shall be subject to the provisions of Rule 45 of the Aircraft Rules, 1937, and can be suspended or cancelled under Rule 19 of the Aircraft Rules, 1937, as in the case of Indian licences.
(xvii) The validation so issued shall be valid only when carried along with the licence validated. The validation shall not be beyond the validity of the licence held.
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(I) for wide-body commercial-jet aircraft
(e.g.: B777, A340, A330, etc.,)
A. as PIC, the flight crew should have a:
i) Minimum flying experience - 5000Hrs
ii) Minimum PIC experience - 2500Hrs
iii) Minimum PIC on Type/variant - 700Hrs with current IR/LR Check/Pilot’s Proficiency Check
iv) Minimum glass-cockpit experience - 1000Hrs
v) Recent experience - at least three takes-off and landings within the preceding 90 days on the type of aircraft applied for, or in a flight simulator approved for the purpose.
vi) Passed a proficiency check on a flight simulator by a DGCA-approved examiner covering PF and PNF duties (duration of 4Hrs; i.e. 2Hrs each).
B. as co-pilot, the flight crew should have a:
i) Minimum flying experience - 3000Hrs
ii) Minimum P2 experience - 2000Hrs
iii) Minimum P2 on Type/variant- 500Hrs with current IR/ Pilot’s Proficiency Check
iv) Recent experience - at least three takes-off and landings within the preceding 90 days on the type of aircraft applied for, or in a flight simulator approved for the purpose.
v) Passed a proficiency check on a flight simulator by a DGCA-approved examiner covering PF and PNF duties (duration of 4Hrs; i.e. 2Hrs each).
(II) for narrow-body commercial-jet aircraft (e.g.: B737-NG, A320 family, etc)
A. as PIC, the flight crew should have a:
i) Minimum flying experience - 4000Hrs
ii) Minimum PIC experience - 2000Hrs
iii) Minimum PIC on Type/variant - 500Hrs with current IR/LR check/ (Pilot’s Proficiency Checks)
iv) Minimum glass-cockpit experience - 1000Hrs
v) Recent experience - at least three takes-off and landings within the preceding 90 days on the type of aircraft applied for, or in a flight simulator approved for the purpose.
vi) Passed a proficiency check on a flight simulator by a DGCA-approved examiner covering PF and PNF duties (duration of 4Hrs; i.e. 2Hrs each).
B. as co-pilot, the flight crew should have a:
i) Minimum flying experience - 2000Hrs
4 CIVIL AVIATION REQUIREMENTS SECTION 7 SERIES ‘G’ PART II 15TH NOVEMBER 2010 ii) Minimum P2 experience - 1000Hrs
iii) Minimum P2 on Type/variant - 500Hrs with current IR/LR check/ (Pilot’s Proficiency Checks)
iv) Recent experience - at least three takes-off and landings within the preceding 90 days on the type of aircraft applied for, or in a flight simulator approved for the purpose.
v) Passed a proficiency check on a flight simulator by a DGCA-approved examiner covering PF and PNF duties (duration of 4Hrs; i.e. 2Hrs each).
(III) for operation of Turbo-prop aircraft having AUW exceeding 5700 Kgs A. as PIC, the flight crew should have a:
i) Minimum flying experience - 2000Hrs
ii) Minimum PIC flying experience – 1000 Hrs
iii) Minimum PIC on type/variant - 100 hrs with current IR/LR check/LR Check/ (Pilot’s Proficiency Checks).
iv) Recent experience - at least three takes-off and landings within the preceding 90 days on the type of aircraft applied for, or in a flight simulator approved for the purpose.
v) Passed a proficiency check on a flight simulator by a DGCA-approved examiner covering PF and PNF duties (duration of 4Hrs; i.e. 2Hrs each).
B. as co-pilot, the flight crew should have a:
i) Minimum 500 hours total flying experience; and
ii) Minimum 100 hours on type/variant as P2, or
iii) Minimum 500 hours total on multi-engine aeroplane.
iv) Recent experience - at least three takes-off and landings within the preceding 90 days on the type of aircraft applied for, or in a flight simulator approved for the purpose.
v) Passed a proficiency check on a flight simulator by a DGCA-approved examiner covering PF and PNF duties (duration of 2Hrs; i.e.: 1Hr each).

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(IV) for operation of multi-pilot helicopters, having AUW exceeding 3175 Kg.
A. as PIC, the flight crew should have a:
i) Minimum flying experience on helicopters - 1000Hrs
ii) Minimum PIC on type/variant - 50Hrs
iii) Shall pass skill test by a Flight Operations Inspector of DGCA.
iv) Minimum flying experience in preceding 90 days on class of helicopter to be flown in India - 5Hrs or 5 takes-off and landings.
B. as co-pilot, the flight crew should have a:
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i) minimum flying experience on helicopters - 500 Hrs.
ii) on class of helicopter to be flown in India - 50Hrs.
iii) Shall pass skill test by a Flight Operations Inspector of DGCA.
iv) Recent experience on class in preceding 90 days - at least 5 takes-off and landings after endorsement.
(V) for aircraft having AUW below 5700 Kg or helicopters having AUW below 3175 Kg and certified for single crew operation:
i) Professional Pilot licence with a minimum flying experience - 500 hrs.
ii) Minimum flying experience on class as PIC - 100 hrs.
iii) Shall pass skill test by a Flight Operations Inspector of DGCA.
iv) Recent experience on class in preceding 90 days – at least 5 takes-off and landings after endorsement
(VI) for instructor under FATA for Flying Training Institute on aircraft having AUW below 5700Kgs:
The applicant shall:
A. have equivalent instructor rating from contracting State
B. pass skill test by Director Flight Training / Flight Operations Inspector of DGCA, and
C. meet the following flying experience requirement :
a) as Assistant Flight Instructor on Aeroplane
i) PIC of on class - 250Hrs
ii) Instructional experience on class - 50Hrs
iii) Current Instrument Rating on class
iv) Recent experience - at least 10 takes-off and landings within the preceding 90 days on class of aeroplane applied for, or in a flight simulator approved for the purpose.
b) as Assistant Flight Instructor on helicopters
i) PIC on class - 150Hrs
ii) Instructional experience on class - 50Hrs
iii) Current Instrument Rating on class
iv) Recent experience - at least 10 takes-off and landings within the preceding 90 days on class of helicopter applied for, or in a flight simulator approved for the purpose.
c) as Flight Instructor Aeroplane
i) PIC of on class - 2000Hrs
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ii) Instructional experience on class - 1500Hrs
iii) Current Instrument Rating on class, with minimum instructional flying experience of 100 Hrs, of which not more than 50Hrs shall be on approved synthetic flight trainer.
iv) Flying experience on class by night - 50Hrs
v) Recent experience - at least 10 takes-off and landings within the preceding 90 days on class of aeroplane applied for, or in a flight simulator approved for the purpose.
d) as Flight Instructor Helicopters
i) PIC of on class - 1000Hrs
ii) Instructional experience on class - 750Hrs
iii) Current Instrument Rating on class, with minimum instructional flying experience of 50 Hrs, of which not more than 25Hrs shall be on approved synthetic flight trainer.
iv) Flying experience on class by night - 25Hrs
v) Recent experience - at least 10 takes-off and landings within the preceding 90 days on class of helicopter applied for, or in a flight simulator approved for the purpose.
Note: For newly manufactured models of aeroplanes/ helicopters, where pilots with stipulated experience are not available, the Director-General may prescribe minimum experience.
2.3 Medical Requirements:
The applicant for validation of foreign licenses under the privileges of FATA shall be required to have:
i) Valid Class 1 medical fitness assessment from the licence issuing authority of the contracting State
ii) Valid class I medical assessment issued by DGCA India as required under Rule 39B of the Aircraft Rule, 1937 and medical fitness in accordance with the requirements contained in CAR Section 7, Series ‘C’.
iii) Medical fitness assessment as per rule 39C of the Aircraft Rules 1937.
2.4 Procedure
(i) Application for validation of Foreign Licence
Operator shall submit application form (Appendix A) for issuance of FATA at DGCA reception in respect of the flight crew along with the following documents and duly filled in Appendix B:
a) Copy of foreign licences issued by the ICAO contracting State.
b) Copy of valid type endorsement and Instrument rating on the foreign
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licence in respect of the type of aircraft to be flown in India.
c) Copy of valid foreign medical assessment of contracting state.
d) Valid Indian Medical as per Para 2.3 of this CAR.
e) for operation of Flight Radio Telephony, a copy of valid licence from contracting State’s regulatory authority.
f) Certificate from the State Regulator for verification of foreign licences and type ratings.
g) Certified copy of the flying experience requirement requirement as laid down in 2.2 of this CAR for validation of foreign licence (certified log book and or summary of flying).
h) Copy of valid instructor/examiner rating as per para 2.1from the contracting state, if applicable.
i) Certified copy of LVP Cat-II/Cat-III authorization as per para 2.1, from the contracting State, where applicable.
j) Two copies of Appendix-A of this CAR duly completed.
k) Five copies of Appendix-B of this CAR duly completed.
l) Fees @ Rs. 5,500/- [Rs. 5000/- (for grant) and Rs. 500/- (for the test)] in the form of a Demand Draft for each flight crew payable to "PAO, DGCA, MCA, New Delhi."
(ii) The operator shall specifically mention in their application to the Directorate of Training and Licensing the purpose of seeking validation of foreign licence and period of time.
(iii) DGCA shall forward documents for Security clearance of the foreign flight crew to security agencies.
(iv) (iv) On receipt of all the security clearances from all the agencies, operator shall be issued a letter to make available the flight crew for oral examination. Prior to the conduct of the oral examination, the operator shall submit a certificate stating that the flight crew has been adequately briefed for a minimum of four days on the contents of Operator’s Operations Manual, and also submit relevant document certifying applicant’s English language proficiency (minimum Level 4). An applicant during the oral examination shall be checked for his knowledge of air regulation, Operator’s Operations manual, aircraft and English language proficiency. The original documents like license, medical certificate of fitness, flying experience, log book etc. would be examined/verified during the Oral examination and returned immediately thereafter. On the basis of the oral examination, DGCA may prescribe flight/ simulator check or any other test which the flight crew will require to undergo.
(v) On qualifying the oral examination, FATA may be issued initially for three months.
(vi) For extension of FATA beyond three months, the foreign pilot will be required to pass Air Regulations examinations conducted by Central Examination Organization (CEO). On passing of air regulation examination, the FATA will be extended for a period of nine months or as decided by Director General subject to the overall policy of the Government.
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(vii) A foreign pilot who does not qualify an Air Regulation written examination shall not be permitted to appear for re-examination within a period of 15 days from the date of examination or such lesser period as may be specified by the Director-General.
(viii) The application for extension of FATA (as per Appendix ‘C’) shall be submitted within three months prior to expiry of the FATA along with a fee @ Rs. 500/- in the form of Demand Draft for each flight crew shall be payable to "PAO, DGCA, MCA, New Delhi".

2.5 Operating Requirement
:
(i) The foreign pilots, whose licence and ratings are validated under the provisions of this CAR shall be released after passing an assessment check on simulator / aircraft by DGCA approved examiner.
(ii) The operators shall ensure that the foreign pilots employed by them comply with the conditions attached with the issuance of FATA and the requirements specified in this CAR.
(iii) The flight crew operating Indian registered aircraft on the basis of validation of their foreign licences, shall comply with all the applicable Indian rules, regulations, procedures and directions issued from time to time, the operating and maintenance procedures, FDTL, weather minima, MEL, pre-flight medical check, etc., in conformity with the Operations Manual.
(iv) The validation of foreign licence shall no longer be valid if the flight crew discontinues the employment with the Indian operator who seeks the validation. In such cases Indian Operator shall immediately intimate DGCA
that FATA holder’s documents viz identity card, security card etc. Have been returned to the airport authorities, BCAS and submit his/her FATA for cancellation.
(v) The validation of a foreign licence shall also be subject to the requirements/conditions stipulated by the contracting State, who has issued the licence. This shall be the responsibility of the Operator and a consolidated certificate in this regard shall be submitted by the Operator in respect of pilots exercising privileges under FATA.
(vi) The operator shall be required to submit details of expatriate pilots as per Appendix "D" and "E" of this CAR every three month.
(vii) During the validity of FATA, it shall be the responsibility of the operators to ensure that the foreign pilots exercising the privileges of FATA under their employment have:
a. Valid passport and visa
b. Valid licences and ratings
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c. Carried out proficiency checks, IR/LR checks of minimum duration 04:00 hrs (02:00 hrs as PF and 02:00 hrs as PNF) by DGCA approved examiners.
d. Meet the recent experience requirements of their ratings.
(viii) The operators shall be required to ensure that, in case foreign pilot leaves India for continuous period of 90 days, a fresh security clearance is required to be taken before permitting him to exercise the privileges of FATA. In such cases operator shall maintain flying activity, FDTL and accident/incident record of the FATA-holder while he/ she is away, and shall ensure compliance with Indian regulations in force.
(ix) The foreign pilots, whose licence and ratings are validated under the provision of this CAR shall be released after passing an assessment check on simulator/aircraft by DGCA approved examiner on type.
(x) FATA may be withdrawn at any time without assigning any reason.


(Dr. Nasim Zaidi)


Director General of Civil Aviation

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Appendix ‘A’


APPLICATION FORM FOR VALIDATION OF FOREIGN PILOT LICENSES


1. Name of the Pilot -
2. Nationality
3. Duration for which validation is sought
4. Details for the foreign license to be validated
Item


Detail

a) Country of issue (contracting State)


b) Type of License


c) Date of Birth of the applicant for FATA
(Note: A certificate from the operator that the aeronautical authority, issuing the foreign licence permits to exercise privilege of licence and ratings upto 65 years of age)
d) Age in complete years, as on the date of submission of application


e) Aircraft Type Ratings (contracting State license)


f) Validity of License (contracting State)


Licence Number……………….
Validity from……….to…….……


g) Validity of Medical Fitness

(contracting State)


Validity from…………to…….……


h) Validity of Medical Fitness

(DGCA, India)


DGCA File No…………………...
Validity from…………..to………...


i) Whether holding current authorisation for Examiner/instructor/check pilot


j) Details of FRTOL issued by the State regulatory authority


FRTOL Number……………
Validity from……….to……...


k) e-mail i.d. of the contracting State for the verification of the foreign license , ratings, medical, English proficiency, accident incident free record, FRTOL, Cat-II / III authorization, examiner/ instructor ratings etc.

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Whats your point ?
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My point is that there are many Indian Nationals operating on FATA's, this as can be seen by the regulation is illegal.

The rest of the post was for the benafit of expat pilots who might wish to read over the new rules regarding FATA.

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you know you could have just posted the link to the pdf ....
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No doubt that's why he didn't, as no-one would be remotely interested.

India is a RISH, pure and simple.

Couldn't pay me enough to work there...

Rat Infested **** Hole.
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"Couldn't pay me enough to work there...

Rat Infested **** Hole
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I fail to understand that how on this earth, you get the idea that India is looking for you. And you go on making such statement.
The grudge you hold by saying " money can`t buy me", says that you tried your luck in India but now its sour grapes for you.
Good luck where ever you go but by that attitude ......
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Devil concern

well we all have same concern,nothing is straight forward in that market,unless there is a break through till then,we have to fight out or get into line or call your uncle's working for goverment.
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Big S##ty white bird,what **** hole do you come from??oops your name says it all.
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Grrr Fata Foops

HERE IS THE STORY------
aviation in india is blossoming, there are not enough QUALIFIED' pilots so when the need is great all sorts of rules and regs vanish and/or get changed to suit lol, ex-pats flourish, young dime a dozen pilots fall by the wayside, the older indian capts get whatever they want, and life goes merrily on, until the next downturn comes along then ex-pats are personna non grata, old indian pilots get fired for the slightest mishap, and the poor young pilots are again ******,
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Thumbs down BS Rule

This rule is already causing problems. IndiGo has grounded 3 Co-Ps with more to follow and KFA will also be facing the wrath soon. Here's to hoping that like most DGCA rules this will get changed once the airline pressure mounts, but rumor has it that KFA no longer has the same respect with the DGCA like it used to. As you can tell by my ID, I too have been affected by this rule but no point crying about it. It is what it is and we have to find alternatives or move on. Best of luck to all my fellow pilots, may you have more success in this endeavor than I did. Happy 2011 to all.

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