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Old 2nd Aug 2010, 16:08
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@On The ILS there was no center in kolkata ..my friend came all the way from kolkata for the exam.....
@tmbpilot

ohhhh is it.....my god thats too bad....quite unfair for the guys in the east......!!!! thanx for the info buddy and clearing a speculation in our mind...!!!!!
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Old 2nd Aug 2010, 16:20
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Yes of course there will be opportunity. The HR people have been telling this over phone for past one week or so. There will be another session, and in this session they will not send roll numbers to those who failed (aahh... are going to fail) in the 1st August session. This will be soon.
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Old 2nd Aug 2010, 16:22
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@jimmygill- nopes i did it from New Zealand, even while the initial issue of RTR i did not appear for ne exams.

@on the ILS- thanks buddy
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@jimmygill- nopes i did it from New Zealand, even while the initial issue of RTR i did not appear for ne exams.
Any more information about currency of your licenses?
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@jimmygill-

Well, as far as teh currency of FRTOL goes- its till 2013
and the RTR(P) is gonna get lapsed in the early next year.

U need to know nething else?

Thanks for the interest!
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Old 2nd Aug 2010, 17:27
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Yes need more information

1. How long is NZ RTR valid?
2. How long is NZ cpl valid?
3. How long is Indian CPL valid?


Let be me myself, thanks for the opportunity for the detective work to figure out your 'predicament'.

If you need help, you must supply as much information as possible, most people are willing, but without relevant information they cannot do much.
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Old 2nd Aug 2010, 17:41
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@ jimmy gill- NZ rt is valid till the NZ cpl lasts, like its for lifetime as long as the medicals are current which can be renewed here easily.

@On The ILS- Buddy we did call up at sanchar bhavan where the person incharge just yells at you saying "Pilot Bane Ho, Itna bhi nahi pata!" I have no clue if being a pilot requires u to know everything stated in the DGCA norms that too without an operational website that has its own days of showing up and going off! you have to be lucky enuf to catch it while its operating!

So basically heard that you need some 30 hours valid in the last three years when u apply for the RTR thingi. but then there are spectaculations that if suppose my RTR is getting lapsed in 2nd January 2011 then i should have the 30th hour exactly at 1st Jan 2008! its just tooooo confusing! i dont wanna sit for the stupid WPC exams
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@jimmygill- yea please excuse me for it. Just too tensed abt things.

But yea ma Nz CPL and RT are valid throughout as long as i keep ma medicals current which can be done easily in here itself

Indian CPL is till 2013.

I m sorry for the trouble its causing you but highly appreciate ur efforts! Thanks Buddy
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Old 2nd Aug 2010, 17:47
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Guys what was the correct answer for the 737 NG question?

All the options had 737-500 in it and it doesn't qualify for NG
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@ON The ILS- tried talking to the sanchar bhavan people on phne buddy, the answer was "Pilot Bane Ho, Itna Bhi Nhai pata!" now how on earth are u to know things when the website is hardly operational and even the Concerned authorities answers in such a way, But if i get any notices and further enlightment on the subject i ll keep u posted.

P.S.- just spoke to a person in here, he told me that i can fill up a form and get the direct conversion done as i dint give exam for the inital issue as well. Lets hope for the best!
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Old 2nd Aug 2010, 17:49
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I remember one of the options did have 600/700/800/900
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Old 2nd Aug 2010, 17:55
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"Pilot Bane Ho, Itna Bhi Nhai pata!"
That was a nice response.

Since the validity of your licenses is in the same state as on the day of initial application, you can repeat the same process and get another 3 or 5 or 20 years of validity.

Looking at your level of concern I thought you coauld be having a Phillippines CPL which is usually valid for 1 year and consequently the RTR(p) also valid for lesser duration.
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@jimmygill-

Yeah i heard it from someone else also that i need to just fill up a form on the wpc website (if it is operational in the near future)

So will keep u posted seeing the amount of help u gave me thanks a ton
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@prayingdamsel

I understand you're the damsel in distress here, but .. it would be really nice if you post stuff related to RT in the right thread !

.. or create a new one.

It would help someone else who might be facing a similar predicament like
you.

P.S : A small bit of advice. If you have time in your hands, I'd highly recommend you try to clear both part 1 and 2 exams of Indian RTR(A) by hook or crook ()
As long as you have an RTR(P) or RTR(C) and are NOT employed by an airline, you will always have problems and headaches.
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Old 2nd Aug 2010, 19:22
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@ON The ILS- tried talking to the sanchar bhavan people on phne buddy, the answer was "Pilot Bane Ho, Itna Bhi Nhai pata!" now how on earth are u to know things when the website is hardly operational and even the Concerned authorities answers in such a way, But if i get any notices and further enlightment on the subject i ll keep u posted.

P.S.- just spoke to a person in here, he told me that i can fill up a form and get the direct conversion done as i dint give exam for the inital issue as well. Lets hope for the best!
@prayingdamsel

my god...that reply was so rude.....yeh government employees ka kuch nahi ho sakta....reminds me of that comedy serial "office office" they use to show on tv....it was true to the core......n yaa u r rite how the hell u r suppose to know when their FANTASTIC website is operational once a year(m not sure about that too)!!!!

anyways good u got to know the procedure n really gr8 that u don't have give that torture exam.....!!! so do the needful for the renewal ASAP!!! n ya surely keep me posted....okiez thn....tc...!!!!
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Old 2nd Aug 2010, 19:31
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Yes of course there will be opportunity. The HR people have been telling this over phone for past one week or so. There will be another session, and in this session they will not send roll numbers to those who failed (aahh... are going to fail) in the 1st August session. This will be soon.
this then puts an end to the speculation in sum earlier posts that they will be short listing 150-200 or maybe even more candidates in this recruitment n then training them in batches as n when required....!!!!
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Old 2nd Aug 2010, 21:01
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@on the ils @shanx @

firstly...
@on the ils
yeah bro.. seriously hoping they evaluate properly. good luck bro..
no news on the result date.
the invigilator we had is from jet licensing chennai and he told us tht the total number is 2500 and mentioned tht less than 10% will be selected for the 1st round. and finally about 40 in 2 batches. thts wat he said. again.. im not sure how far is his info accurate or he has also heard rumours!!


chennai turn out was 200 or so.. although there were 9 NINE people missing in my room of 50!!!!!

@shanx
dude... i still dun get your point bout ppl with "jugaad" not mentioning tht they went thru it... i mean wat made you point tht known fact????
i was jsut wondering y there were empty seats???
YOU PAID OR NOT... YOU WILL STILL WANNA SIT FOR IT NA?? you wnt pay for it and not go!!!

Also.. i truly agree dude...why 2 photographs!!!
Y pencil?? chennai they asked me to mark with pencil in the middle of my 2nd paper.
here.. they did ask us to show tem our CPL with the letter and they did cross check the names and the photograph since we were standing right infront of them!!
I UNFORTUNATELY also AGREE to your rough calculations on the paper checking part!! i doubt they would go thru all the papers.. but again... like ON THE ILS mentioned... lets hope!
DUDe!!!! ARE YOU SERIOUS?? did ppl actually not turn up after the break??? HOLY ****ES!

any other news/updates???




THERE WERE 3 CENTERS IN TOTAL. NO KOLKATA.
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Old 3rd Aug 2010, 03:23
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Ok, some calculations and a bit of speculation ...


Total number of candidates = 2500 (as mentioned by Pilot2612 and Jet Airways employee)

No. of papers = 5

Therefore total no. of answer sheets to evaluate = 12,500

Also, assume each answer sheet takes 5 minutes to evaluate and total.

Therefore total time to go through 12,500 answer sheets = 12,500X5 = 60,000 Minutes = 1000 Hours

Let's say 10 persons are hired for this counting and totalling job.

Therefore each person works for : 1000/10 = 100 hours

Assuming each person works for 10 hours daily ... The number of days each person will take to do his/her job = 100/10 = 10 days.

Throw in a weekend (you dont expect these bugg@rs to do this monotonous job during weekends)

Hence 12 days to declare results.


The following are the assumptions :

1. 10 persons are employed to do the counting and totalling of marks.
2. They can count and do basic arithmetic and not make errors.
3. Each one puts in 10 hours of work excluding lunch and coffee breaks.
4. They are honest about the whole thing.


Hence the important question again. When such a huge number of answer sheets are to be evaluated and with good accuracy, why were OMR sheets not used instead of manual counting and tallying of marks ??
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Old 3rd Aug 2010, 04:28
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Just my view:

I think they're using those correction sheets which have got the right answers punched as a hole into them. So the total questions marked - the one's you've got right gives you the negative marks and the number of answers you got right added to it gives you the total score on a paper. Its a very easy process and doesn't take long. So in short they would be spending only like 10-12 mins on a candidate.
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hmm even i guess so
and that might be the possible reason why they asked us to put a cross in the circle and not to darken it
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