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Old 8th Oct 2004, 08:35   #1 (permalink)
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My SIA Interview Experience (v long)

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Disclaimer: Everything in this post (including opinions and suggestions) is from my own exp and info gleaned from friends. You own mileage may vary, so read/apply at your own risk!

Pre-interview:
Send in your application form thru email and hard copy. Leave out things that interviewers can easily pick on. Nothing special, just basic job application skills.

You MUST have all the pre-requisites (O levels with pure science, maths etc). It seems that the higher your education the better your chances since most (but not all) people I know who have gone for the interview are graduates.

Put anything that boasts of your coordination skills in your application. E.g. Car/Boat licence, sports etc. You want SIA to see that you are capable both mentally AND physically.

Then you wait. If youíre lucky, just a few weeks. I waited 3 mths before I got called up. So for you guys who are complaining after only 4 weeks, Iíd suggest you get used to it!

Thereís probably no point calling the HR at this point to check on your application. Each time I called, I was told to wait another 2 weeks. The HR is too busy to look for your application, cuz they also have to take care of the pple going for 2nd interviews, Seletar, OBS etc.

My suggestion is, if you've not received an answer in 3 mths, apply again. Quite possibly nothing was wrong in your application Ė it just got overlooked. Replies will be in email.

1st Interview:
1st youíve got to do an eye exam. This can be done by any GP. Theyíll give you a small slip of paper to indicate the results.

Next, start studying. Besides the basic interview questions like why do you want to be a pilot, what makes a good pilot, what do you know about SIA etc, youíll also get more technical questions like how does a jet engine work, how does a plane fly etc. Go to http://www.geocities.com/khlim777_my/index.html and browse. Thereís a comprehensive set of interview questions there.

There are 2 interviewers each in 2 rooms. You will be assigned to a room. When you 1st meet the interviewers, greet them, shake hands, be polite etcÖ.. you know the drill. During the interview, they will pick on aspects in your application/background/life. Anticipate and prepare your answers. E.g. they may ask you when did you decide to become a pilot. If you answered that itís a childhood dream and ambition, they may counter and ask how you have pursued this interest since then. If you answered only recently, they may question your commitment. This is especially so for those who have worked a few years before applying, like myself. Lesson here: stay 2 steps ahead of them. Engineering grads can expect to be hit with more technical questions.

Whatever happens, KEEP CALM. They want to see how you react under pressure. If there's anything you can't answer, be humble and admit you donít know, but are willing to learn. By doing some studying, you will show that you have interest. They will not expect you to know everything.

Towards the end of the interview, you may be asked qns like, Are you afraid of the dark/heights, ability to swim etc. This seems to be a routine part of the interview process, and doesn't indicate your performance in any way.

There are at least 38 interviewees in a single day. A friend estimates that there could be up to 60. To give you an idea of the attrition rate, during my 2nd interview, I only found 1 other person who went for the 1st interview on the same day as I did. Of course, I wouldnít know if anyone else went for 2nd interview on other days, so this may be inaccurate.

Then you wait for the 2nd Interview. The wait can be anything from 2 days to 8 months. Those rejected after the 1st interview will be informed thru email. Invitation for 2nd interview is also done thru email.

2nd Interview:
This is held over 2 days. The 1st day consists of paperwork in the morning and a 3hr computerised aptitude/psychomotor test in the afternoon. While you cannot prepare for the exact qns, you CAN prepare yourself for some of the type of qns. Surf the Net and find some free online PILOT aptitude tests. They may help you prepare mentally.

The aptitute/psychomotor test consists of several parts, most of which are timed individually, which is why you need to be prepared mentally to be able to jump right in. It will test you on your reaction, memory, ability to think in 3D space, coordination etc. After the test, donít fret too much. Almost everybody thinks that they did badly.

After the test, it's a good idea for your batch to meet up to get to know each other and plan on how to work together the next day.

The second day is very tiring. It consists of a multi-part situational test in the morning, essay, final interview after lunch, and the tea party after that.

Situational Test. You are split into 2 teams, to perform certain tasks. IMO, I feel that the tasks themselves are not important. They tell you that doing this or that gets you x points, but I think that itís a red herring. Itís more important HOW these tasks are performed.
Each task has a different group member leading. As a leader, emphasise teamwork, listen to everyoneís views and donít (or let anyone) dominate everything. This is why itís important to discuss this on the day before, so everyone knows how to behave.
Pay attention to how each person performs, as you will be asked to give a peer appraisal. Focus on each person's different strengths, so that it sounds genuine. Be humble when you appraise your own performance.

Essay. Nothing much. Why do you want to be a pilot in 50 words.

Final Interview. More of the same from the 1st interview, except youíre in front of 4-8 senior interviewers. I had 6. Whatever the 1st interviewers picked on previously will likely be emphasised again in greater detail. Anything you couldnít answer in the 1st interview, make sure youíve researched it by now. Again, be humble, calm, and admit if thereís anything you donít know. Qns are likely to be more technical than before.
Your background and motivations are a likely focus here as well. My suggestion is to have a close look at your SIA application, and anticipate and prepare answers on areas where interviewers are likely to give you a hard time. For me, it was again the fact that I worked a few years before applying to SIA. Whatever your answer, try to show how it benefits you, and in turn benefits SIA.
Biz grads may be warned that they form the largest group of dropouts during the Cadet Pilot course. Don't worry, they're just yanking your chain. Keep calm and assure the interviewers that you will work hard and are fully committed.

Tea Party. Hey donít slack just yet! Itís still an interview. Make sure you interact and not stand in the corner stuffing your face with food. They want to see how you interact in a more natural setting. This is also an opportunity for the interviewers to assess those borderline pass/fail types. Again, use the same interview skills. Pay attention to your body language here, as you will be standing and moving around. They may still ask you technical questions here.
Don't forget yourself and start arguing with the interviewers over any differences of opinions. And never, ever bring up any of SIA's recent labour problems.

After this, go home, chill out, and pray. Cuz youíre going to have to call SIA the next day to check on the result of your final interview. If you pass, youíll go for your CPL Initial Medical.

The attrition rate here is usually not as high as the 1st interview. On a good day, all interviewees will make it thru. However, I've heard of batches where half or more get rejected.

Please Note: Generally, if one is rejected after the 2nd interview and tea party, SIA will not consider your application again. However, there ARE exceptions. There are people who were rejected after the tea party, applied again, got accepted and are currently training! So don't give up!

CPL Initial Medical:
This takes half a day to complete. Your results will be sent for approval to the CAAS medical board. I called them up after only 5 working days and got my results. You do not actually need to call them up since the results will be sent to SIA. If you fail the medical, then obviously your application into SIA will also fail.
You may be asked to redo any part of the medical, if you're borderline in any of the tests. Don't worry about this, I know several people who have had to redo their tests, and were subsequently offered a place in SIA.

Post Medical:
Another long wait. Iíve heard of pple waiting up to 6 months for an answer, altho it seems the norm is about 1-4 months. Donít worry if your friends get an answer sooner than you, since they donít call everyone up at the same time even if itís for the same intake. The same batch of interviewees may also be split into different intakes several months apart.
They may give you as little as 2 weeks notice before the start of the course, so be prepared if you're currently working.
A delay in offer may be due to many reasons. E.g. You may be too young and slated for a later intake. Btw, SIA has reduced the min age from 26yrs to 25yr 6mth old for S'poreans. If you are younger than this, you may still be accepted into SIA upon clearance from RSAF.

You may call SIA up if you want to check, just don't do it too often. Most of the time, your application will simply be pending. They will not know or reveal anything until just before they send you your email.

A word of warning: Even if you pass your medical, your application into SIA may not be successful! Therefore, do NOT quit your job yet. A few of my friends got rejected after passing their medical for unknown reasons. Itís also possible to wait 3-4 months before getting a rejection. Itís not an ideal situation, but thatís how it works.
All rejections from the past several interview batches are compiled before sending out in a blast, which explains the long wait.

If someone from your batch of interviewees got rejected, and you didnít receive any rejection, then itís likely that youíre safe. However, it's a good idea to call and check your application, as I've heard that some rejection emails do not get sent/received properly, causing the poor fellow/s to wait an extra few months.

In the end, only 6 out of the original 10 from my batch who attended the 2nd interview got an offer from SIA. It can take anything from 4 - 12 months from application to training. It took me 7 months.

Some Misc Stuff:
Some things you MAY wish to do before applying to SIA. Use at your own risk!
- Do the CPL medical on your own. That way, you know your medical condition first. Anything too long can shorten, anything too short can lengthen! HahaÖ.. you know what I mean lah. But itís expensive Ė about $400. If you pass, you may want to highlight this in your interview.
- Do a familiarisation course at any of our flying clubs in Sípore, or even a 1 day lesson. You can use this to show your interest and commitment during the interview as well. Surf the internet to find out more. This is also expensive.
- Lasik. This one I dunno. Obviously may be useful if your eyes cannot meet the pre-requisites in the first place. However, this may delay your medical for several months as your eyes need to ďstabiliseĒ first. Moreover, there are always risks in any operation. I cannot help you on this point.

Once youíve got your offer from SIA, then itís time to P-A-R-T-Y! Iíll see you in Seletar/Jandakot/etc where youíll buy me a drink!!

Thatís it! Hope that helps. If I remember more, Iíll be sure to slot it in here. Good Luck!

EDIT: Added some (more) info then made adjustments to fit word limit.

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Old 9th Oct 2004, 00:16   #2 (permalink)
 
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Time to party? Hmmm.... you've still got:

1) 21 days at OBS
2) Pretech Paper (Seletar)
3) Performance Paper (Seletar)
4) ATPL (Seletar)
5) Post-Tech Paper (Seletar)
6) First Solo (Seletar)
7) 10-12 months in Jandakot
8) Learjet Tech Paper
9) 3 months Maroochydore
10) 747/777 Tech Paper
11) 1 month of Simulator

Long way more to go.
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Old 9th Oct 2004, 00:33   #3 (permalink)
 
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time to 'Party' as in, he got through the selection.You sound well perpared. I guess you boned up on the bread + butter questions in case they asked them i.e engines etc.

Of course if there will be eleven other 'Parties' remains to be seem.


Good luck to you..
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Knightwhosays_NI, congratulations! And yeah thanks for the description

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Old 9th Oct 2004, 07:47   #5 (permalink)
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Long way more to go.
DoMePlease: Agreed. What I meant by "Party" is simply to "celebrate". Being accepted by SIA is a significant milestone in a pilot's career, and while there are several more hurdles to clear, it's certainly a worthy cause for a celebration, right?

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Good luck to you..
mooney59: Thanks, dude.

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Knightwhosays_NI, congratulations! And yeah thanks for the description
GallenWolf: Hey no problem. If you have anything to ask feel free to do so on this thread or just PM me.
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Congratulations on your acceptance to the scheme, and thank you for sharing your experience in such a well-informed and clear post, ideal fodder for my nascent forum FAQ. And nice Monty Python name as well!

Well done,

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Congratulations. And keep up the good work.
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Squid: Thanks for your kind words! Pls go ahead and use whatever you need for your FAQ. I'll try to update the missing info in my post as quickly as possible

Lee: Thanks to you too.
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just curious, do cadet pilots get allowance during their training? if so how much?
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Old 21st Oct 2004, 16:45   #10 (permalink)
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Join and find out lah..

Worst case is........


U get chopped before Learjet


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B777_my: Cadets get a small allowance. It's not much, but that because they take care of all your necessary needs like uniforms, all meals, lodging, medical etc. I read that you have been accepted, so you'll find out how much soon. What you get is based on your educational level. Btw, congrats!

This post also serves as a little bump to the thread, as I have made several small but important changes to the original post.
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Hi guys,

That was very informative indeed. I will be applying again for SQ early next year. Hope to succeed this time round.

Anyone has any ideas on the attrition rate throughout the course? I have heard of nasty stories from those who didn't make it.. seems like the course drop out rate is real high. Not sure if these are just rumors from sour grapes.

What I do wonder is how much is it out of your control.. sometimes pple might not just like u even if you have the potential. sad isnt' it if u get kicked out due to that?

well, until someone is able to shed some light on this topic, I shall remain optimistic.
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employment

does any one have info on how long does it take to process the employment pass for sq cadets???
Is there a possibilty of the pass getting rejected???

thanks guys
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*Bump* Pls remember that the original post is over a year old, so some thing may have changed without my knowledge. Still, I hope the basic information may be useful to you.
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SIA 2nd round reject

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Please Note: Generally, if one is rejected after the 2nd interview and tea party, SIA will not consider your application again. However, there ARE exceptions. There are people who were rejected after the tea party, applied again, got accepted and are currently training! So don't give up!

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Hi Knightwhosays,

Great to hear from you especially about the things in the qoutes above.

I am a 2nd round reject and here is a post I submitted recently somewhere else in PPRuNe.

"I was also a SQ final interview reject. I was told that I will never ever be considered again. But something happened puzzled me. I applied 2 years after my final interview failure and was called down for the first interview about 7 months back. The captain who interviewed me said something like "since you've demonstrated that you're really keen, we'll consider your application" I got a rejection letter 3 days later saying "we've gone through your application in detail and regret to inform you that you are unsuccessful in your application..."

Wierd things going on. Any comments??

Well, I didn't pin much hope on SIA after my final round failure thats why i'm looking elsewhere for alternatives.

cheers "

I personnaly believed that my interview after my 2nd round reject was a screw up on SIA side. I think the interviewer was just paying lips service when he said they'll consider my application. However you might have renewed my hopes with SIA. Could you please describe some examples you know who had failed the final rounds and went through at a later stage? How did they do it? If you have contact to these people, would you please help me out?

Cheers,

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I personnaly believed that my interview after my 2nd round reject was a screw up on SIA side. I think the interviewer was just paying lips service when he said they'll consider my application. However you might have renewed my hopes with SIA. Could you please describe some examples you know who had failed the final rounds and went through at a later stage? How did they do it? If you have contact to these people, would you please help me out?

Cheers,

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Some examples? Well, I personally don't know anyone who has made it after failing the 2nd round. However, a few of my friends DO know this guy who failed in the 2nd round, but subsequently made it thru. So while it's pretty rare for it to happen, it's apparently true. This is 2nd hand news at the most, so i think it should be pretty accurate. This guy was reconsidered because he took a degree after failing the first time and reapplied again. So it seems that they want to see you better yourself in the time between your applications. I'll ask around to see if I can get this guy's contact for you, but don't hold your breath. Anyway, good luck.
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Some examples? Well, I personally don't know anyone who has made it after failing the 2nd round. However, a few of my friends DO know this guy who failed in the 2nd round, but subsequently made it thru. So while it's pretty rare for it to happen, it's apparently true. This is 2nd hand news at the most, so i think it should be pretty accurate. This guy was reconsidered because he took a degree after failing the first time and reapplied again. So it seems that they want to see you better yourself in the time between your applications. I'll ask around to see if I can get this guy's contact for you, but don't hold your breath. Anyway, good luck.
Hi,
I heard from my friend who went for the interview as well that the HR told him that there is no need to reapply if you had failed the final interview, however if u managed to upgrade yourself academically, they might consider you again. So i guess it still happens but one must upgrade themselves again which is a pain in the ass hehe
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Hi,
I heard from my friend who went for the interview as well that the HR told him that there is no need to reapply if you had failed the final interview, however if u managed to upgrade yourself academically, they might consider you again. So i guess it still happens but one must upgrade themselves again which is a pain in the ass hehe
Hi 9M,

Thanks for the info. Considering that a post graduate degree, which will cost me about $20k (for eg masters of science in engineering), will only earn me a chance for the interview, I think saving the money for an MFA CPL/IR is more realistic since I'll have a license in hand to possibly gain experience.

hmm... any comments?

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Hi 9M,

Thanks for the info. Considering that a post graduate degree, which will cost me about $20k (for eg masters of science in engineering), will only earn me a chance for the interview, I think saving the money for an MFA CPL/IR is more realistic since I'll have a license in hand to possibly gain experience.

hmm... any comments?

cruiser
Hi,
very tough choices . If u get a master and reapply they can deny your application but at least u have a master degree. If u get a cpl/ir which will cost you about 70000$, 50000$ more than the master, if you cant get employment what are u going to do with that? Anyway like i say it is tough unless u dont mind working out of singapore then getting the cpl/ir will be a better choice. If u r really rich get the cpl/ir and master wil be the best combination
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If you are really rich, master degree, cpl/ir AND A320/737 type rating
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