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Old 18th Jan 2010, 00:59   #1 (permalink)
 
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Dragonair (KA) recruitment?

Any idea if Dragonair intend to recruit in the forceable future? Got my application in about 2yrs ago, just in time for the GFC!
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Old 18th Jan 2010, 01:35   #2 (permalink)
 
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Have a look on their website now and you'll see.
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Old 18th Jan 2010, 01:51   #3 (permalink)
 
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Thanks, it says "no vacancy" under F/O recruitment, my question was when, or if, that was expected to change.
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Old 19th Jan 2010, 13:37   #4 (permalink)
 
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wtf? anyone??
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Old 20th Jan 2010, 00:43   #5 (permalink)
 
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Thats what I was looking for! Bugger, should have accepted the interview 5 yrs ago!
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Old 20th Jan 2010, 09:49   #6 (permalink)
 
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Moe, try cx. That way you will be senior to all the KA guys when they get put at the bottom of the cx list. KA no longer has any staff other than pilots and FAs, they no longer have a flight training centre, they are losing beijing slots, shanghai slots, cx doing some KA taipei's, lost 2 330s and counting, 1 or 2 320s, every one of the freighters have gone, and we have dropped half a dozen routes. There are some observers looking at this mess and think we must be gearing up for something really big! Get your application in now!!!
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Old 20th Jan 2010, 13:52   #7 (permalink)
 
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KA

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KA no longer has any staff other than pilots and FAs, they no longer have a flight training centre, they are losing beijing slots, shanghai slots, cx doing some KA taipei's, lost 2 330s and counting, 1 or 2 320s, every one of the freighters have gone, and we have dropped half a dozen routes.
So why are they still hiring cadets?
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Old 20th Jan 2010, 18:28   #8 (permalink)
 
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save long term costs.
the salary for pilots who came through the cadet program are lower than direct entry pilots.
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Old 21st Jan 2010, 00:41   #9 (permalink)
 
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Lo-Co Terminal

Big investment in KA's very own Lo-Co terminal!
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Old 21st Jan 2010, 02:02   #10 (permalink)
 
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Raven,
The salary scale is exactly the same as an expat officer. What the locals miss out on are the various expat benefits such as housing, child education etc


The Cav
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Old 22nd Jan 2010, 08:18   #11 (permalink)
 
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Just send in the applications. Word has it that they are recruiting cadet since early this month. They just haven't put it on their website yet.
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Old 27th Jan 2010, 05:24   #12 (permalink)
 
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I also submitted my application last week.I wonder anyone receive a call for interview?
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Old 28th Jan 2010, 20:41   #13 (permalink)
 
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Submitted mine. Playing the waiting game now.
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Old 29th Jan 2010, 03:08   #14 (permalink)
 
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If you have been shortlisted, the wait shouldn't be too long. I applied in mid-December and about 3 weeks later, I was given a date for their Initial Test, which I completed a few days ago.

The projected selection schedule I was given looks like this:
Initial Tests: January - February
Aptitude Test: February - March
1st Interview: March - April

This is unless you are holding a CPL/fATPL/MECIR and the like... I have friends who hold these licenses and have applied, but have not heard back yet. Not sure why.
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Old 29th Jan 2010, 04:05   #15 (permalink)
 
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dude,

i did my initial test on 27 Jan, just wanna to know if anyone here have received the notice for next test.

Good Luck..
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Old 29th Jan 2010, 08:06   #16 (permalink)
 
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ICAO Test

Hi holdmetight,

I wanna if KA require ICAO during the interview process?
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Old 29th Jan 2010, 11:06   #17 (permalink)
 
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cadetpilotwannabe

My understanding is that KA cadets only sit the ICAO English Test after graduating from ab initio training at FTA.
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Old 29th Jan 2010, 11:12   #18 (permalink)
 
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Hi holdmetight,

Thank you for your response. I am going to take my initial test the week after next.Can you tell me what is it look like? What is the key to success in this stage? Is there anything I can prepare for?

Btw, did you apply for CX as well? I submitted my application to CX and now I am waiting for the response! Wish you all the best!
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Old 29th Jan 2010, 11:14   #19 (permalink)
 
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KA vs. CX

I am also wondering what is the different between CX CPP and KA CPP. I know they are quite similar. What will the career look like?
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Old 29th Jan 2010, 11:26   #20 (permalink)
 
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KA Initial Test

The KA Initial Test lasts about 2 hours, and is divided into the following components:

1. English Grammar Test (50 minutes)
2. English Listening Test Part A
3. English Listening Test Part B
4. Numeracy Test (30 minutes)

English Grammar Test:
This is basically a paper from the Oxford Placement Test. There is more than enough time to complete the paper and double-check your answers. Questions look like this: I "would like/have liked/should like" to order a coffee. You are required to tick the correct option. Easy as.

English Listening Part A:
This is another section from the Oxford Placement Test. They will play a tape from a radio placed in front of the room, so you will need to concentrate. The speakers have heavy British accents so be warned. There are 100 questions and they all look like this: I would like to order "a nice cold/an ice cold" drink. Again, tick the correct option.

English Listening Part B:
This is an in-house listening test created by Dragonair. You will first be given about 10 seconds to read about 4-6 questions and memorize them. Then you will be asked to cover up the questions and listen to a recording lasting about 30 seconds. After listening to the recording, you will then open up the questions and answer them. You do this 3 times. Relax but concentrate on listening, for the same reasons as listed above.

Numeracy Test:
Basically this is like any math test you can expect for a graduate management trainee job. There are 20 questions, which require very basic mathematical skills, but you will be required to do a lot of calculations to get an answer. You are not allowed to use a calculator. The key is to keep calm and try your best to maintain accuracy. I do not think the paper is finish-able, so just try your best and do whatever you can. Questions look like these:
Numeric

I was told to expect one week in which to receive notification for the Aptitude Test, if successful.

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