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7th Feb 2013, 13:33
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Posted By hetfield

http://www.mlit.go.jp/jtsb/flash/JA804A_130116-130...

http://www.mlit.go.jp/jtsb/flash/JA804A_130116-130205.pdf

Page 5?
7th Feb 2013, 10:06
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Posted By hetfield

@cockney steve Yes, the eight "cells" of the...

@cockney steve

Yes, the eight "cells" of the 787 battery contain each 6 sub-cells in parallel.
Paralleling increases capacity. So each sub-cell has about 11Ah makes roughly the nominated 65Ah....
6th Feb 2013, 13:17
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Posted By hetfield

@mikkojuha At least, I don't know Li-Ion...

@mikkojuha

At least, I don't know Li-Ion cells (one cell) which has 65Ah....
6th Feb 2013, 09:12
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Posted By hetfield

Yep, some pilots are also engineers with a...

Yep, some pilots are also engineers with a university degree......;)
6th Feb 2013, 07:23
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Posted By hetfield

Yes, lead acid can do it, Li-Ion not. In the...

Yes, lead acid can do it, Li-Ion not.

In the 787 batteries each cell-array (8) has 6 cells in parallel.
So, one cell has litlle over 10Ah.
4th Feb 2013, 11:25
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Posted By hetfield

@fizz57 It's not that simple, just NOT the...

@fizz57

It's not that simple, just NOT the battery. And this kind of battery isn't also simple at all.

To my knowledge, there are 4 companies involved for 787 batteries :

- GS YUASA (J),...
3rd Feb 2013, 12:15
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Posted By hetfield

AP Exclusive: 787 Grounded, but Batteries Can Fly...

AP Exclusive: 787 Grounded, but Batteries Can Fly - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/ap-exclusive-787-grounded-batteries-fly-18389906)

I fully agree with Sully.
1st Feb 2013, 18:35
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Posted By hetfield

@Taunusflyer It isn't that simple... As...

@Taunusflyer

It isn't that simple...

As long there is just one cell (3.7 Volts) it's not rocket science.

If the voltage demand is higher, e.g. 28 Volts, you need 8 cells.

And there is the...
1st Feb 2013, 13:05
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Posted By hetfield

It doesn't have to be lead-acid NiCd and...

It doesn't have to be lead-acid

NiCd and NiMh do a good job.

Reliable, safe, cheap....
31st Jan 2013, 12:19
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Posted By hetfield

@SoS I fully agree...:ok:

@SoS

I fully agree...:ok:
30th Jan 2013, 19:00
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Posted By hetfield

Völlige Ignoranz, sorry.

Völlige Ignoranz, sorry.
30th Jan 2013, 18:23
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Posted By hetfield

BOEING should have ask themselves: "What's...

BOEING should have ask themselves:

"What's wrong with the batteries?"

> 100, each 16.000 USD!!!!!
30th Jan 2013, 17:20
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Posted By hetfield

Amen.... Boeing says it will find cause of 787...

Amen....
Boeing says it will find cause of 787 problems, defends batteries - latimes.com (http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-boeing-earns-787-dreamliner-20130130,0,6984636.story)
30th Jan 2013, 07:26
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Posted By hetfield

I fully agree. The two batteries of the 787...

I fully agree.

The two batteries of the 787 have NOTHING to do with that, they are common for all airliners.

- APU start
- Elec Essential backup
29th Jan 2013, 09:15
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Posted By hetfield

You are not the only one who wonders why Boeing...

You are not the only one who wonders why Boeing took that risk for the benefit of a few kilogramms....
28th Jan 2013, 20:11
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Posted By hetfield

That's totally irrelevant! The Main Bat as...

That's totally irrelevant!

The Main Bat as well as the APU bat f:mad: up!
28th Jan 2013, 19:01
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Posted By hetfield

Don't get it:ugh:. It doesn't matter to be...

Don't get it:ugh:.

It doesn't matter to be "unusual".

It matters, is it safe?
28th Jan 2013, 18:15
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Posted By hetfield

Exactly. The messenger (BMS) may be shot, if...

Exactly.

The messenger (BMS) may be shot, if one cell :mad: off.
IMHO, wrong place to put in a monitoring unit.

Just have a look to upper left/right with the PCB...
28th Jan 2013, 17:45
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Posted By hetfield

Check this (UPS 6): ...

Check this (UPS 6):

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikinews/en/a/a5/UPS_Flight_6.jpg

and this, UPS 1307

http://evworld.com/press/N748UP_DC-8_7.jpg
28th Jan 2013, 12:13
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Posted By hetfield

Exclusive: Japan eased safety standards ahead of...

Exclusive: Japan eased safety standards ahead of Boeing 787 rollout | Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/28/us-boeing-dreamliner-japan-idUSBRE90R05C20130128)
27th Jan 2013, 10:07
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Posted By hetfield

Well, if the 787 FCOM is not identical with the...

Well, if the 787 FCOM is not identical with the reality it's haste and waste IMHO.
26th Jan 2013, 20:15
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Posted By hetfield

@Turin That's very interesting, indeed......

@Turin


That's very interesting, indeed...

Another change in the fast (haste makes waste) development of the nightmareliner?
26th Jan 2013, 14:48
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Posted By hetfield

@avionista Look.... #415

@avionista

Look.... #415
26th Jan 2013, 11:28
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Posted By hetfield

Lithium cobalt oxide - Wikipedia, the free...

Lithium cobalt oxide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_cobalt_oxide)

American Manganese Inc.: Boeing 787 Dreamliner Lithium Ion Batteries Based on Cobalt Not...
26th Jan 2013, 10:46
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Posted By hetfield

Albeit it's not possible in the moment anyway, a...

Albeit it's not possible in the moment anyway, a 2nd battery expert besides Dr. Olaf Wollersheim (Germany) wouldn't fly with 787...



Boeing 787 Dreamliner's burnt out battery 'spewed out molten...
26th Jan 2013, 09:13
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Posted By hetfield

@Mark thx for the link! Very interesting...

@Mark

thx for the link!
Very interesting...
24th Jan 2013, 13:41
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Posted By hetfield

Dr. Olaf Wollersheim: »Den Schaden zu...

Dr. Olaf Wollersheim:

»Den Schaden zu beheben, könnte lange dauern« – elektroniknet...
22nd Jan 2013, 10:37
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Posted By hetfield

Let's assume the 200lb additional weight of NiCd...

Let's assume the 200lb additional weight of NiCd batteries instead of LiIon are realistic, IMHO the trade of for extremely more safety is out of question.
21st Jan 2013, 14:14
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Posted By hetfield

Sad, people forget fast.... UPS 1307 ...

Sad, people forget fast....

UPS 1307
http://www.ntsb.gov/doclib/reports/2007/AAR0707.pdf

UPS 6...
21st Jan 2013, 12:39
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Posted By hetfield

Securaplane makes the chargers for 787..... ...

Securaplane makes the chargers for 787.....
...
21st Jan 2013, 12:24
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Posted By hetfield

glad rag Don't worry, if a battery :mad: up,...

glad rag

Don't worry, if a battery :mad: up, the relevant charger will not affect its supply bus.
21st Jan 2013, 11:52
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Posted By hetfield

There are two batteries per plane, is that...

There are two batteries per plane, is that right?
Yes

One for the APU and one for the rest of the plane's electrical requirements?
Yes

The various battery problems encountered in the 787...
21st Jan 2013, 09:22
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Posted By hetfield

RR NDB check this Li-polymer Battery:...

RR NDB

check this

Li-polymer Battery: Substance or Hype? (http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/the_li_polymer_battery_substance_or_hype)

To my knowledge, the 787 LiIon are cobalt...
20th Jan 2013, 18:19
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Posted By hetfield

Yes, but both are popular for...

Yes, but both are popular for overheat/fire....like we all know now!
20th Jan 2013, 16:34
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Posted By hetfield

Do you remember the 747F Dubai(?) crash? ...

Do you remember the 747F Dubai(?) crash?


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