Passenger plane almost crashed into mountain

[Sunamer]

Originally Posted by Tu.114 View Post
So what do we know now?

- A crew got a bit closer to the mountains [....]

- This incident has been reported to SUST, be it immediately or a bit later[....]

You seem to be having a very stretchable definition of A BIT.
I wonder, what would be not "A BIT" by your standards...excluding a crash, of course.

[vapilot2004]

So again, I ask for anyone that may know this: In the states this incident likely would have been an ATC bust. Does Eurocontrol operate differently and is reporting (ATC) 'optional' in a case like this?

[ATC Watcher]

Does Eurocontrol operate differently and is reporting (ATC) 'optional' in a case like this

First as far as I know there is no "Eurocontrol" specific IGS regulation, ATC monitoring/reporting deviations on this , rather each individual State determine his rules, Common sense dictates that any Go around is normally reported on the ATC log. But this was not an ATC incident.
Remember also this was not an ILS but and IGS . You have a visual part in the end., and it is the pilot who is responsible for terrain clearance, not ATC.

On the Av Herald page there is a very interesting comment :

The IGS is not used by the DH8 due to systemic limitations with regards to maximum glideslope angle. The only approaches approved and used are the two LOC approaches leading to a circling into 19 and a visual approach into 01. No other approaches are executed.

This sounds to come from someone who knows what he is talking about, but ok this is Internet...

If true, then they were on a visual leg, and the incident is an interesting one..and explains why the SUST is looking into it seriously.

[vapilot2004]

Thank you for the insight, ATC Watcher - an apropos user name, good sir.

I am surprised there lacks a cohesive set of rules in an area where borders are both numerous and near. I might guess then that the Swiss rules do not record an approach deviation in terminal airspace. On the airline side, there must have been no FOQA.