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Old 24th Mar 2014, 12:59   #7781 (permalink)
 
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RAT functions

SOPS, don't think the RAT will power the Apilot after dual eng failure. It provides hydraulic PWR for primary flt controls and electric for xfer busses only from memory.
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Old 24th Mar 2014, 13:01   #7782 (permalink)
 
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PETALING JAYA: Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak is expected to hold a press conference at 10pm at PWTC on new developments on missing MH370.
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Old 24th Mar 2014, 13:14   #7783 (permalink)
 
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Looks like they've found it (by it, i mean identifiable wreckage that could only have come from mh370).

Malaysian Prime Minister is flying in for a special emergency announcement in 1hr, with family having a private meeting 30 mins before. Highly irregular from the usual itinerary.

Looks like this is it.
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Old 24th Mar 2014, 13:15   #7784 (permalink)
 
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Press conference and ROVs en-route looks like they have found something significant.

Let's hope for a quick recovery of the boxes.

14 days left.
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Old 24th Mar 2014, 13:17   #7785 (permalink)
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Is that Short Tons or Long Tons?

54.1 Tons of fuel, or 121,400Lbs out of a possible max fuel of 303,292 LBS (assuming 6.71LB/USG)?
Very short tons 121,400lbs at 1,000lb/t converts very nicely to 54.1 metric tons and not the nonsense statement of 121MT.
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Old 24th Mar 2014, 13:19   #7786 (permalink)
 
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777-200ER fuel capacity

From FCOM
main tanks (wing) 29.1 tonnes each
Center tank 79.3 tonnes
Total useable fuel 137.5 tonnes @ fuel density of 0.8029
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Old 24th Mar 2014, 13:23   #7787 (permalink)
 
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Breaking

Emergency meeting with Relatives at 21:30 Local tonight

Then
Press Conference at 10pm

Routine updates would likely just wait until tomorrow. Serious news to warrant another presser tonight, last one wrapped 3 hrs ago.
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Old 24th Mar 2014, 13:24   #7788 (permalink)
 
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Square orange object found

Reports suggest that one of the items found is a square orange coloured object. Is there any possibility this could be a life raft?
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Old 24th Mar 2014, 13:25   #7789 (permalink)
 
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Sky Sources: relatives of missing plane passengers to be booked on charter flights to take them to Australia


(looks like they may have found the debris)
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Old 24th Mar 2014, 13:26   #7790 (permalink)
 
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Maybe Success has found something. Nothing on news here yet (Oz) Will see if anything on 1am news in half an hour.

ETA: Poor families, at least they will be treated gently if they are flown here. Hope and pray there is some closure soon.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-2...-ocean/5341692
Malaysia Airlines MH370: PM Tony Abbott says new objects located south-west of Perth - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Flight Lieutenant Josh Williams, who was on board the P-3 Orion, said the flight was successful.
"We were looking for debris in the water and we sighted a number of objects on the surface and beneath the surface visually as we flew over the top if it," he said.
"The first object was rectangular in shape and slightly below the ocean. The second object was circular, also slightly below the ocean. We came across a long cylindrical object that was possibly two metres long, 20 centimetres across.

"Everyone is quite hyped."

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Old 24th Mar 2014, 13:28   #7791 (permalink)
 
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Tweet on the AMSA site states the last aircraft (Japanese and Australian P3) have left the area without any further sightings.

So the Malaysian PM press conference may be about something else. Or else tweet is wrong and AMSA are saying nothing until the relatives are told (which seems only correct).

Looking at the maps of search activities, they seem to be searching smaller areas than they did the first few days - despite more assets joining the search. Australian PM has been very bullish also. It does make you wonder what other information they have had.
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Old 24th Mar 2014, 13:35   #7792 (permalink)
 
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Ads

Ads does not need the transponder to be serviceable, just a VHF radio. That's why most aircraft on Flightradar drop off the site when they go overwater for long distances.
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Old 24th Mar 2014, 13:39   #7793 (permalink)
 
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@OPENDOOR

Not really. Slide rafts would be deployed after the aircraft ditches, what we call ditching in aviation. It is done by the pilots with the clear intention to do so.
In ideal conditions aircraft floats for a while and cabin crew would open doors in armed mode. Slide rafts are deployed automatically when doors are opened in armed mode. Cabin crew would evacuate the pax on rafts, disconnect the rafts and apply sop's to survive for as long as possible and signal when activity is observed in the nearby area.
A B777 raft is large, it can fit up to 80 pax. It does have an orange canopy.....if the sea was rough it would be very hard for a raft to be afloat after 14 days, but you never know.
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Old 24th Mar 2014, 13:40   #7794 (permalink)
 
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Life rafts

The life-rafts/slides operate automatically when the doors are opened, if the doors have been armed. Remember the "doors to automatic" announcements?

The slides/life-rafts MAY deploy during a crash landing where a door is damaged, but not automatically otherwise.
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Old 24th Mar 2014, 13:44   #7795 (permalink)
 
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A quick point on the batteries were they something special, because the vast majority of them (even known branded) are manufactured IN china (look at your phone, pc, camera). Some use basic internal high quality cells manufactured in japan (and perhaps malay/singapore in offshore plants)

I vape and many forums tell us the better 18650 batteries, those which are ASSEMBLED in China using number of high quality "button" cells.
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Old 24th Mar 2014, 13:46   #7796 (permalink)

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Would the aircraft have been ZFW limited? It would answer the question as to why the standby passengers were not loaded and also give a clue as to the weight of the "undeclared?" cargo and why the cargo manifest isn't being published.

Anyone familiar with the figures would like to do the calculations?
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Old 24th Mar 2014, 13:49   #7797 (permalink)
 
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Families to Australia

Sky News is reporting that the Malaysian government is planning to fly the families from Beijing to Australia.
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Old 24th Mar 2014, 13:49   #7798 (permalink)
 
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BBC just read out a txt sent to relatives. from mem gist of it - we must now assume the aircraft has crashed and there are no survivors.

would they send such a bland text when he is due to meet them.
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Old 24th Mar 2014, 13:53   #7799 (permalink)
 
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Sky reporting

"Relatives told that they are sure without reasonable doubt that mh370 is lost with no survivors"
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Old 24th Mar 2014, 13:59   #7800 (permalink)
 
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AAIB briefed PM that Inmarsat have completed "unprecedented" further analysis, have concluded 370 flew along Southern corridor, last position Indian Ocean W of Perth.

Based on this have concluded plane lost there. Further details 'tomorrow'.
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