How many more of these kinds of unnecessary accidents do we need to have globally, before we recognize that "non-precision approaches" are unnecessary, obsolete dinosaurs, that have no place in modern jet transport aviation?
Unfortunatly many A/C are flown in 3rd world countries who are not yet "modern".
I know it's only Google Earth, but the terrain looks pretty flat for the three miles before the 36 threshold. Don't see why they would impact before the runway, unless something else was wrong. As has been posted before, if a reverser deployed inadverently the thrust level would retract to idle. At approach power, that would normally be quite controllable.
Unfortunatly many A/C are flown in 3rd world countries who are not yet "modern".
It has little to do with the type of approaches. Non precision approaches have been normal procedure since instrument approaches were first used in aviation. This includes WW2. The problem is the incompetency of the pilots that fly them and the age old habits of `ducking` under. ` Change the attitudes, cultural or otherwise of the crews and the perceived risks associated with non-precision approaches will reduce.
"Real men don't go around" is the attitude that leads to crashes and kills people and there is plenty of evidence this attitude is common among certain types of pilots. Again, ethnic culture often plays its part.
Let's say this aircraft was equipped with GPS. I don't believe the Myanmar CAA has issued any approvals for stand alone GPS approaches. Has anyone found a stand alone GPS approach in that country?
Sometimes the attitude in these 3rd world places with NDB approaches is "you just put the needle on the nose and go as low as you can go".In these humid tropical environments the clouds grow up out of the jungle not down from the sky.
Don't normally comment on accidents and wont pretend to have any special knowledge, but apart from the detached TRs, nobody seems to have mentioned the bloody big hole in the side of the nacelle..
Don't normally comment on accidents and wont pretend to have any special knowledge, but apart from the detached TRs, nobody seems to have mentioned the bloody big hole in the side of the nacelle..
Well, if you are seeing the same hole that I see, the fire damage runs vertically above the hole, and not aft, ergo more than likely caused after everything came to rest.
obsolete dinosaurs, that have no place in modern jet transport aviation?
The F100 was way advanced for it's day. I flew them years ago in the 90's, but I'd say thay are more advanced in many ways than the new 737-800's I fly now. I would be happy to fly them again any time.
Ballsout. I agree wholeheartedly. They were the bees'knees. Only problem I ever knew about was when the busbar behind the FO shorted out and filled the FD with blinding smoke/fumes in seconds. LHS was wearing enormous glasses that gave hin a little protection and he slung it at the nearest runway he could see(fortunately they were in the pattern at CPH at the time). The FMS was way ahead of it's time and the instrumentation was pure early Airbus. It was a delight to fly and we had an unofficial competition to see who could get it from LGW to CDG (raw date/manual) fastest. No problems with over reliance on gizmos then!
Don't normally comment on accidents and wont pretend to have any special knowledge, but apart from the detached TRs, nobody seems to have mentioned the bloody big hole in the side of the nacelle..
I mentioned about potentially spat blades with my original comment on the TR. But this could have come as a result of FOD as the jet carved its way through the treeline.
My thoughts are in agreement with another poster; if this damage pre-existed prior to impact, you would have expected smoke stains both aft and above the hole. Until the prelim report comes out and they replay the tapes, its all guesswork!
If the aircraft has impacted trees, I wouldnt be surprised if the TR had ripped itself off in the impact with the ground.
It has little to do with the type of approaches. Non precision approaches have been normal procedure since instrument approaches were first used in aviation.
Relevant accident statistics show the opposite....
