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Old 18th Feb 2012, 05:06
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ADS-B and drones

Congress approves domestic deployment of surveillance drones- 30,000 could haunt skies by 2020 « Photo's, Hodgepodge and Miscellany


Government and private enterprise will have clear skies for UAV's with unknown capability or intentions as the bill to expand ADS-B systems is in effect over the USA. Big brother grew larger wings...
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Great Terrorist Opportunity?

So you are saying that all I have to do is find a clapped-out DC-3, load it up with a nuke, fit it with ADS-B, clone the ADS-B from a passing drone, and I can fly it anywhere I like in the USA?

Please nobody tell Al Qaida. Ooops...
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And once the Jane-Doh type hysterics are over, we have a link or two that are definitely a bit more credible.....


U.S. Military, Industry Seek Ways To Fly Unmanned Planes Amid Civil Air Traffic | Defense News | defensenews.com

Congress OKs FAA bill allowing drones in U.S., GPS air traffic control - chicagotribune.com
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5 year plan

Once the ATC considerations are resolved, the next one is passenger concerns..

But if the crew costs are removed, a LOLOCC will be an option....

In 5 years freighters will be unmanned, in 10 years passenger aircraft.

You heard it here first...


I wrote an unpublished short story, several years ago about unmanned passenger flights..need to see what i predicted as time frame.


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Doubt 5 or even 10 years likely for freight or pax given the huge orders for Manned aircraft currently in place. Even Air Astana ordered 1 Billion USD worth of a/c this year.
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I reckon more like 10 years for freight and 20+ for pax - but hey, I'm naturally cautious!

One thing, I agree that it will happen.

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Lots of pilot-less freight (and passenger) aircraft flying about over the Great Satan - the Iranians will be rubbing their hands in glee at the prospect...

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Have you been sniffing the shandy again? What on earth are you going on about???
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Have you been sniffing the shandy again? What on earth are you going on about???
No, not been sniffing anything - just wildly postulating what dinnerjackets chums might aspire to...

How Iran hijacked a US stealth drone | TG Daily So just think what they could do with a sky full of the things in their favourite country...
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Drone fix

No worries, answer is to put Pilots back on board again !
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It's far easier to use trains without a driver, but there are very few examples around. I think it will be a long time before the public will be happy to fly on an aircraft without a pilot, or to allow unmanned large freight aircraft to overfly their homes. A brake on technological advance is frequently applied by cultural issues.

I reckon 50 years before there are regular "unmanned" commercial flights.
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How Iran hijacked a US stealth drone | TG Daily So just think what they could do with a sky full of the things in their favourite country...
Hijack?...my arse! What do you think is the most likely cause of a single-engined aircraft coming to rest on foreign soil (or sand)? I'll give you a clue - it's not hijack...

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What is thier mandate

I want to know what these domestic drones will be looking for? How does the public feel about being spied on?

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There seem to be been irony-bypass operations carried on a couple of folk lately... Or maybe I should have plastered my post with emoticons just to be sure it was flagged.
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Regarding the time frame for pilotless aircraft, in the year in which I joined the RAF as a prospective pilot, 1957, the then-government forecast the end of manned aircraft.

This news caused the CAS, Sir Dermot Boyle as I recall, to visit to inspire us by stating that it would not affect us newly-recruited people. He did actually state that it was not beyond the imagination that the soon-to-be operational Lightning fighter would eventually take on the ground attack role. I don't know if that prediction was realised.

There are areas of aviation where unmanned aircraft will, and do, operate, but I think we should forget large aircraft carrying freight and passengers in the foreseeable future.
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