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grounded27 18th Feb 2012 05:06

ADS-B and drones
 
Congress approves domestic deployment of surveillance drones- 30,000 could haunt skies by 2020 « Photo's, Hodgepodge and Miscellany


Government and private enterprise will have clear skies for UAV's with unknown capability or intentions as the bill to expand ADS-B systems is in effect over the USA. Big brother grew larger wings...

JohnMcGhie 18th Feb 2012 05:45

Great Terrorist Opportunity?
 
So you are saying that all I have to do is find a clapped-out DC-3, load it up with a nuke, fit it with ADS-B, clone the ADS-B from a passing drone, and I can fly it anywhere I like in the USA?

Please nobody tell Al Qaida. Ooops...

hellsbrink 18th Feb 2012 05:48

And once the Jane-Doh type hysterics are over, we have a link or two that are definitely a bit more credible.....


U.S. Military, Industry Seek Ways To Fly Unmanned Planes Amid Civil Air Traffic | Defense News | defensenews.com

Congress OKs FAA bill allowing drones in U.S., GPS air traffic control - chicagotribune.com

Gulfstreamaviator 18th Feb 2012 06:07

5 year plan
 
Once the ATC considerations are resolved, the next one is passenger concerns..

But if the crew costs are removed, a LOLOCC will be an option....

In 5 years freighters will be unmanned, in 10 years passenger aircraft.

You heard it here first...


I wrote an unpublished short story, several years ago about unmanned passenger flights..need to see what i predicted as time frame.


glf

angelorange 18th Feb 2012 07:50

Doubt 5 or even 10 years likely for freight or pax given the huge orders for Manned aircraft currently in place. Even Air Astana ordered 1 Billion USD worth of a/c this year.

Lima Juliet 18th Feb 2012 15:31

I reckon more like 10 years for freight and 20+ for pax - but hey, I'm naturally cautious!

One thing, I agree that it will happen.

LJ

Lyneham Lad 18th Feb 2012 18:43

Lots of pilot-less freight (and passenger) aircraft flying about over the Great Satan - the Iranians will be rubbing their hands in glee at the prospect... :E

;)

The B Word 18th Feb 2012 19:11

Lyneham Lad

Have you been sniffing the shandy again? What on earth are you going on about???

Lyneham Lad 18th Feb 2012 20:46


Have you been sniffing the shandy again? What on earth are you going on about???
No, not been sniffing anything - just wildly postulating what dinnerjackets chums might aspire to...

How Iran hijacked a US stealth drone | TG Daily So just think what they could do with a sky full of the things in their favourite country...

old-timer 18th Feb 2012 21:02

Drone fix
 
No worries, answer is to put Pilots back on board again ! :D

Daf Hucker 18th Feb 2012 21:24

It's far easier to use trains without a driver, but there are very few examples around. I think it will be a long time before the public will be happy to fly on an aircraft without a pilot, or to allow unmanned large freight aircraft to overfly their homes. A brake on technological advance is frequently applied by cultural issues.

I reckon 50 years before there are regular "unmanned" commercial flights.

Lima Juliet 18th Feb 2012 22:42


How Iran hijacked a US stealth drone | TG Daily So just think what they could do with a sky full of the things in their favourite country...
Hijack?...my arse! What do you think is the most likely cause of a single-engined aircraft coming to rest on foreign soil (or sand)? I'll give you a clue - it's not hijack...:ugh:

The B Word is right...you've been on the Top Deck!

http://www.canmuseum.com/Staging/Images/Cans/26862L.jpg

dfish 19th Feb 2012 01:45

What is thier mandate
 
I want to know what these domestic drones will be looking for? How does the public feel about being spied on?

D. Fish

Lyneham Lad 19th Feb 2012 12:23

There seem to be been irony-bypass operations carried on a couple of folk lately... Or maybe I should have plastered my post with emoticons just to be sure it was flagged.

Wwyvern 19th Feb 2012 12:47

Regarding the time frame for pilotless aircraft, in the year in which I joined the RAF as a prospective pilot, 1957, the then-government forecast the end of manned aircraft.

This news caused the CAS, Sir Dermot Boyle as I recall, to visit to inspire us by stating that it would not affect us newly-recruited people. He did actually state that it was not beyond the imagination that the soon-to-be operational Lightning fighter would eventually take on the ground attack role. I don't know if that prediction was realised.

There are areas of aviation where unmanned aircraft will, and do, operate, but I think we should forget large aircraft carrying freight and passengers in the foreseeable future.


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