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Old 10th Feb 2024, 21:01
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Helicopter Jobs 2024

NPAS are hiring. The requirement for an IR has gone again. Get in quick before it come s back.

https://westyorkshirepolice.tal.net/...EEi4wFYCeUJg4I
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Offshore UK is looking for copilots and captains across all of the major players

CHC Aberdeen/Norwich

NHV Aberdeen / Blackpool - Captains and copilots

OHS - Aberdeen Copilots

CHC ab-initios starting wage is about 50k GBP.
NHV & OHS unknown starting wages.

There is a real shortage of suitable IR rated pilots.
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Originally Posted by HeliMannUK
Offshore UK is looking for copilots and captains across all of the major players

CHC Aberdeen/Norwich

NHV Aberdeen / Blackpool - Captains and copilots

OHS - Aberdeen Copilots

CHC ab-initios starting wage is about 50k GBP.
NHV & OHS unknown starting wages.

There is a real shortage of suitable IR rated pilots.
There's an excel thing doing the rounds amongst the troops with all salaries on it, well all except Bond.
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Originally Posted by HeliMannUK
Offshore UK is looking for copilots and captains across all of the major players

CHC Aberdeen/Norwich

NHV Aberdeen / Blackpool - Captains and copilots

OHS - Aberdeen Copilots

CHC ab-initios starting wage is about 50k GBP.
NHV & OHS unknown starting wages.

There is a real shortage of suitable IR rated pilots.
And yet they stil require ME-IR (SE aparently not good enough), MCC courses (they could easily provide) and NHV and CHC even the H175 Type Rating (who the hell has an H175 rating outside of offshore O&G)? So the applicant (of which there aren't that many aparently!!!) has to pay his way into the copilo's seat despite the fact they can't fill these seats? Doesn't sound very reasonable to me.
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And yet they stil require ME-IR (SE aparently not good enough), MCC courses (they could easily provide) and NHV and CHC even the H175 Type Rating (who the hell has an H175 rating outside of offshore O&G)? So the applicant (of which there aren't that many aparently!!!) has to pay his way into the copilo's seat despite the fact they can't fill these seats? Doesn't sound very reasonable to me.
Having read both adverts, you are wrong.

chc require type rating, nhv states desirable and may be provided, i know ohs and nhv will supply mcc, they have for recent new joiners
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i know ohs and nhv will supply mcc, they have for recent new joiners
The MCC is usually covered in the initial TR. At least, it used to be.
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Originally Posted by Bravo73
The MCC is usually covered in the initial TR. At least, it used to be.
Depends on the ATO
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Originally Posted by helicrazi
Depends on the ATO
All of the ‘Big 3/4’ run their own TR courses.
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Originally Posted by Bravo73
All of the ‘Big 3/4’ run their own TR courses.
True, but a TR course is specific to the ATO, some will require MCC before the TR, hence why some do MCC separately

It can also vary by fleet within the ATO
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Originally Posted by helicrazi
Having read both adverts, you are wrong.

chc require type rating, nhv states desirable and may be provided, i know ohs and nhv will supply mcc, they have for recent new joiners
So I'm not completely wrong, am I? CHC requires it and NHV MAY provide it. OHS and NHC have it written in their ad that they require MCC so that's the official standpoint. Oh and 500 ME hours on top of all that, nice. Also ME-IR, says so in the AD.

I'm not trying to pick a fight here, just pointing out that the companies might have to come down from their high horse. Beggars can't be choosers etc....

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in many cases the heli companies "want" to be flexible but the oil&gas companies / customers (Shell etc) set the minimum requirements.
If for example a FO doesn't have 500hrs ME, the O&G company might not accept the pilot to fly for them.
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Originally Posted by Ovc000
in many cases the heli companies "want" to be flexible but the oil&gas companies / customers (Shell etc) set the minimum requirements.
If for example a FO doesn't have 500hrs ME, the O&G company might not accept the pilot to fly for them.
I think that is probably not reflective of the current (and for some time) thinking process. Shell recognised years ago that hours on their own are not a good metric for selecting low experience pilots, and that the quality of the selection and subsequent training was more relevant. So a structured programme, much as Bristow has used for decades, was an acceptable alternative to just having a set number of hours and is/was stated in the Shell Aviation standards. They have been copied word-for-word within IOGP 690 (and 590 before that).
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