Moscovite wrote on 2nd November 2010: I can tell you exactly where in world there is waring going to happen according to orders for helicopters. I have told you next year they will begin to fight in the sudan south .. Canadian MI-17s
8th April 2011:
Sudan Army Employs Gunships in Southern Sudan
KHARTOUM — Satellite images indicate a major deployment of military hardware by the Sudanese army, including helicopter gunships and tanks, near the flashpoint Abyei border region of Southern Sudan, a monitoring group said on Thursday.
The Satellite Sentinel Project said that, according to the newly acquired images, the introduction of two attack helicopters and at least nine battle tanks within the range of Abyei constituted a major escalation in the military capacity of the northern army (SAF) in the disputed area.
NATO and Russia have agreed to establish a Helicopter Maintenance Trust Fund for Afghan troops, with Germany as the lead country, officials said after the two-day NATO foreign minister meeting Friday.
NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen said in a closing press conference that the foreign ministers from Russia and NATO declared the fund in the meeting of NATO-Russia Council held during NATO's Berlin talks.
"This is good news for the NATO-Russia Council - we are tackling together the challenge of stabilizing Afghanistan," he said. "But most importantly, this is good news for Afghanistan. Its forces will benefit from this valuable equipment to improve the security of Afghan citizens."
In the opening remarks of the meeting, Rasmussen told ministers that the fund project will "provide training, spare parts and tool kits for three squadrons of Afghan helicopters," which was a tangible achievement for the NATO-Russia cooperation and can help bring peace and stability to the war-torn Afghanistan.
Some diplomatic sources told German Press Agency dpa that Russia is to contribute 3.5 million dollars for the new fund, and Germany will inject 3 million dollars. Turkey, Luxembourg and Denmark also promised small amounts. Rasmussen did not mention detailed contribution of nations in the press conference.
Before the meeting, it was reported that the trust fund is for the supply and maintenance of Russian helicopters in Afghanistan, and Russia would receive 367.5 million U.S. dollars from the helicopter supply contract. However, officials did not highlight the supply issue after Friday's meeting, and the fund seemed to be confined to works of maintenance and repair.
Rasmussen said that NATO and Russia also discussed a joint missile defense system project, supported by Russian President Dmitry Medvedev in last year's NATO Lisbon summit.
"We have a very constructive dialogue (on this)," the NATO chief said. "It is an obviously a challenging job. It is quite a new thing to develop such a common missile defense architecture."
"Yet we have not agreed on how to build that architecture, but it is about a common objective, namely an effective protection of Russia as well as in NATO countries," he added.
Russia kept asking for a legal guarantee from NATO that the missile system will not be directed against Russia's strategic targets, while the alliance did not nod its head. NATO hopes to build two separate missile systems -- a NATO system and a Russian one with close coordination and cooperation between the two sides, while Russia prefers a whole package.
Russia and NATO agreed that the talks on a missile system should be taken forward energetically and the defense ministers of NATO and Russia will hold another meeting in June, officials said.
Vladimir Putin has agreed to the floatation of Russian helicopters
Russian Helicopters, Russia’s dominant helicopter maker, has set the price range for its $500m equity offering as the state-owned company moves closer to welcoming outside investors – and securing some badly-needed cash.
As it edges towards next month’s planned London-Moscow IPO, the group will be learning the lessons from the seven Russian companies that have attempted a London listing this year. Only three succeeded. Russian Helicopters will keep a careful eye on pricing as it tried to become the fourth.
The company is on a mission to modernise its equipment, facilities and products as part of an ambitious Rb20 trillion (about $700bn) state armament programme designed to thrust Russia’s outdated military sector into the 21st century.
According to the company, the share of modern equipment at its plants stands at just 10 per cent, and analysts say Russian Helicopters has a way to go before both its equipment and capacity are back to Soviet-era standards: the group produces under 200 helicopters a year, versus up to 950 per year in the late 1970s.
New capital – and input from a new group of outside investors – could be the state’s first step towards modernising the company and helping it flex its muscles against western competitors including Eurocopter, Sikorsky, Bell and AgustaWestland.
But it still remains to be seen who exactly will be investing in the group’s IPO, given the mixed track record of Russian IPOs in London this year. The three to secure London listings were Nomos Bank, pork and sugar producer Rusagro, and pipe maker HMS, all of three of which were noted for their discounted valuations in comparison with their listed peers.
Russian Helicopters may be following their example. The company is targeting a total valuation of $1.8bn – $2.4bn, which implies that, if priced at mid-range, the shares would be relatively cheap at just 4.6 times earnings before interest, tax, depreciation and amortisation.
But many emerging market funds could be restricted from buying aerospace or defence stocks and unable to take part in the offering, while investors from the traditional defence space could be turned off by some characteristics specific to the Russian industry.
Moreover, Like many other defence contractors, Russian Helicopters is dependent on one big customer – in this case the Russian state. The state armament programme is the fourth of its kind, yet none of the three preceding programmes jave met their targets, and analysts lament that the industry has a history of missing deadlines.
For Russian Helicopters to bring its volume of production back to Soviet-era levels, it will need a significant boost in capital expenditure both from the state and foreign investors – followed by a steady stream of orders.
The question is whether the investors will be ready to bet that such contracts will be forthcoming. Even at 4.6 times earnings.
Russian helicopter producer Rosvertol is in talks with Algeria to sell its Mi-28NE attack helicopters.
The company, a wing of the state-owned Russian Helicopyers holding company, has sent a commercial proposal to sell the helicopters to Algeria.
“A commercial proposal has already been sent (to Algiers) and discussions will begin this year,” Rosvertol General Director Boris Slyusar was quoted as saying by Ria Novosti.
“We hope to sign a contract for delivery in 2012-2017,” the official added.
If the deal goes through, then this will be the second export deal for the all-weather night-capable Mi-28NE which is presently being introduced in the Russian Air Force, the news report said.
Venezuela ordered 10 Mi-28's in 2010.
The Mi-28NE ‘Night Hunter’ is the latest variant of Mi-28 attack helicopter family. It has been designed to carry out hunter-killer missions against enemy main battle tanks, helicopters, ground forces and armoured equipment.
The helicopter is armed with a 30mm 2A42 gun with 250 ready-to-fire rounds mounted under the nose, 23mm gun pods, up to 16 9M114, 9M120 and 9M120F anti-tank missiles, infrared-guided Igla air-to-air missiles, 80mm and 122mm unguided rockets.
The two-seat chopper has advanced night vision optical systems and it also features mast-mounted millimeter-wave fire control radar and state-of-the-art avionics.
Comment: A common perception is that Africa's helicopter forces are in the main ineffectual, a cosmopolitan assortment of Cold War veteran airframes supported by semi-skilled ground and air crews and which, to an extent, is true. However, there has been rapidly growing interest in the Mi28 with numerous sub-Saharan governments seeking to negotiate purchases and .. crucially .. to buy training programmes that will ensure their effective and ongoing operation. Should these aspirations come to life for any number the relatively impoverished sub-Saharan nations, one could witness their possession, for the first time, of a formidable domestic fireforce in that the capability of the Mi28 exceeds anything they possess at present (Mi24) and represents an important advance in terms of commitment and defence strategy. Interesting times ahead!
A wee reminder of the nimbleness (and effectiveness) of the Mi28:
My front seat ride in the original Mi-28 many years ago convinced me that it was a pretty formidable airframe - very gusty day, and very aggressive and rapid pedal turns into and out of wind showed not a murmur of protest from the machine or engines. Impressive performance, and it needed better weapons / sights, which have now been fitted. Love to have another chance to fly it!
'50 Yellow' .. as the Russians like to name their craft. This is the 'all new' Mi28N (Night Hunter) seen here sporting the Russian Air Force's new grey paint scheme. The image was taken 'somewhere' (the photographer was asked not to disclose the location) in Russia within the past week.
50 Yellow is carrying two 20-round B-8 folding-fin unguided rockets, one SACLOS 9M120 Ataka-V radio-guided anti-tank missile (AT-9 Spiral 2) and is fitted with a 30mm Shipunov 2A42 autocannon. She is also fitted with infra-red vision, l@ser sights as well as all the anti-missile and defensive measures paraphernalia.
(When this craft landed from its sortie it parked nexted a Kamov Ka-50 wearing the identifier 'Red 28'!).
A couple of military consultants I know have 'pooh-poohed' the Mi28 but I'm not being so quick to 'rubbish' what I believe is gradually becoming an increasingly sophisticed aircraft.
As an aside, did you know that, despite its heafty price tag (by comparison with the Mi-8/17) African and Latin American governments have expressed an extraordinary level of enthusiasm for this craft!
I second rh200 : ) I'd have the cavalon autogyro and the EMERCOM KA-32 thankyou with accessories
Regarding the MI-28 Interesting enough about 10 years ago, there was this retired CWO who was an army grad of the MAWTS-1, a Vietnam vet and before his retirement managed to convert on the AH-64. had a website on helicopter air to air combat and photos from him in AH-1S fighting AH-64 over the desert ranges and Kamov-50 AND Mil-28. I was thinking eh? I know the US Army OPTEC/OTSA had a few Mil-24 and Mi-8 and a Kamov -32 operating out of JRTC and Biggs AAF but the latest Soviet hardware.
I emailed him to ask him how did the Havoc and Werewolf end up stateside and he said it all ahppened in the early 90s whereby in the aftermath of the break up of the Soviet Union and strapped for cash, they went everywhere trying to flog their latest hardware and even tried to demo the pair as evaluation models to the DoD!