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Old 26th Aug 2010, 02:43   #141 (permalink)

 
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Yesterday it looked like this:



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Old 26th Aug 2010, 12:51   #142 (permalink)
 
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Cool And it used to look like this

The old Aerogulf hangar prior to development of the airport.

Note the four Jet Rangers, Dubai Police 105 in the background, Cherokees of the Emirates Flying School and UAE C-130 as well as the original EK hangars. All changed now



And inside. You can imagine what it was like inside in mid summer!




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Old 26th Aug 2010, 14:39   #143 (permalink)
 
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after dismounting their newly acquired Jet Ranger
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Old 26th Aug 2010, 18:28   #144 (permalink)
 
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Vintage SA318C Alouette

Stumbled across the archive section of the BBC website with a vintage Alouette on show - link below (afraid I can't extract the video, or find it on YouTube, but it should be viewable via the original site).

BBC - Archive - Aerial Journeys - Bird's Eye View | Green and Pleasant Land

The opening sequence shows G-AWLC (SA318C) which appears to have been registered to Heli-Union UK Ltd. 1968-1972.

Was the Alouette a particularly common camera platform in the UK?

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Old 2nd Sep 2010, 07:43   #145 (permalink)
 
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Helicopter Air Mail



Sikorsky S51 of Los Angeles Airways departs the roof of the Terminal Annex Post Office during the inauguration of the first helicopter mail service in the US. 2nd October 1947.


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Old 2nd Sep 2010, 08:20   #146 (permalink)
 
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I don't think the Alouette was particularly common in the UK - maybe ten or so.

I remember the standard skids were so low that when landing in grass it looked as though the thing was landing on it's belly!

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Earl: thank you for the info re. Alouette. Whilst the 1960's were a little before my time(!), I wasn't aware of the Alouette being in common use in the UK and your post confirmed my suspicions.

Whilst I have no first hand experience of flying the afore mentioned machines, I once idled away an April afternoon in the Swiss village of Arolla by watching an Alouette shuttling up and down the valley, passing close to my hotel balcony.

Interesting picture of the QEII - I suspect that may be the same machine as in the BBC video. I just hope they didn't encounter any FOD-quoits. And of course it goes without saying that all the best ships were Clyde built... (conflict of interest: a Glaswegian in exile!).

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Earlier days with an Alouette II, picking up bits of an Alouette III which had inadvertently parked on a stack of drill pipes in the background!



But I'll be on the new QE for its maiden Round the World cruise: not Clyde built, but I wonder where the helipad is?



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Old 2nd Sep 2010, 19:46   #149 (permalink)
 
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Alouette 2

As a youngster in the 70s, an Alouette 2 landed quite close to our house on the Isle of Wight in preparation for filming a Martini advertisement. It spent a week or so chasing power boats up and down the Solent and sure enough a few months later the ad appeared on TV (great theme tune ''anytime, anyplace, anywhere, there's a wonderful drink you can share'' etc etc. Though never could figure out if anyplace and anywhere were different in an ad man's mind!)

Certainly do not remember the registration sorry to say, but the sticker on the nose was what looked like a bee or a hornet in a roundel of some sort. Funny what remains in the grey matter afer so many years.
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Old 2nd Sep 2010, 20:09   #150 (permalink)
 
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D-HJFF - The "Barons" Helicopter

I have been immensely impressed by this thread and agree with many other comments that it has to be one of the best ever on PPRuNe. So I thought it was time to add to it do some digging.

I reckon the registration of the Jet Ranger mentioned in Savoia's last post was D-HJFF and was re-registered G-BTWA in 1978 in the name of Charles Hughesdon (of helicopter garden party fame) - source G-INFO. In 1985 it was old to a Greek buyer and registered SX-HBV and the website "Greek Helicopters" lists its subsequent registrations as N74EA and N624K. The FAA version of G-INFO lists N624K as a current registration, though Greek Helicopters also indicates that it may have returned to Europe as SX-HBV. As N624K it looks like it may have been in Latrobe, Pennsylvania.

Hope this helps others to perhaps provide more up to date or more detailed information for Savoia and perhaps some photos.

PS Got all this info from a Google search...amazing. Keep up the good work.
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Old 2nd Sep 2010, 21:06   #151 (permalink)
 
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Alo's in the Uk

EofR here's a vid including some early shots of 47's? carry mail around a busy US city.


There still are a few Alo's flying in europe specifically the UK, where there are roughly only 5 left.


This machine represents a fleet of about 12~ which were flown by the Army Air Corps as trainers in Cyprus for many years. It was a serious competitor to the Westland Scout.









The only Alo III flying in the Uk right now.

Such an amazing machine to both fly and work on!
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Old 2nd Sep 2010, 22:49   #152 (permalink)
 
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but the sticker on the nose was what looked like a bee or a hornet in a roundel of some sort. Funny what remains in the grey matter afer so many years.
That would be B.E.A.S.

(British Executive Air Services)
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RBA Helicopters nr Reading used to operate an alo II back in the late 60's.

I believe my dad used to fly it and did some unique (at the time) ads for british Rail.
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This looks like the one: G-AVEE............

http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/HistoricalMaterial/G-AVEE.pdf

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Old 3rd Sep 2010, 16:24   #155 (permalink)
 
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Spirited Llamas!

Great to see these UK based Alouette II's and also to see Jeacott's legs!

A Nigerian registered Alouette - was that the only one in the country or did they have a respectable population of this type?

Seeing as we are touching the Alouettes this is close enough (I think) to throw in some colourful images of its cousin the Lama (although to be honest .. any excuse will do!).

Spirited Llamas!




Going up!



Coming down!



Now you see me!



Now you don't!

Selected scenes from Switzerland's celebrated Lama operator - Air Glaciers - flying the SA315B.

Well done to the Air Glaciers team for the rescue work they regularly perform!



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Old 3rd Sep 2010, 19:52   #156 (permalink)
 
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Just another titbit for we older guys ... anyone know the whereabouts of the 1970s business guy - Don Donelly. I had some dealings with him going back to the very late 1960s at his riverside business near Ripley Surrey.

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Old 4th Sep 2010, 15:13   #157 (permalink)
 
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Well well ..

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Dennisimo! The last time I saw Don Donnelly was at Cranfield in the mid-to-late 70's when he was proudly displaying Heliwork's B47 Soloy conversion. My guess is that he remained with Heliwork for a while longer as I recall my godfather meeting up with him on one occasion to discuss purchasing training aircraft. I'm sure there must be PPRuNers who are aware of what happened to him.

Hofmeister: Well well, wonders never cease in the land of PPRuNe!

In my limited free time I enjoy collecting quality photographs of just about anything. The work of George 'Slim' Aarons is just one of many portfolio's I thoroughly enjoy. It includes priceless images such as this one featuring Clark Gable, Van Heflin, Gary Cooper and James Stewart on New Year's Eve 1957 at Romanoff's Restaurant in Hollywood:



This and other images can be seen at Bluetramontana Style: Slim Aarons where I was browsing when I came upon the image of Heinrich von Furstenberg's Bell 206 photographed in 1977:



A couple of days after first seeing this image, in the midnight hours and in a scenario not too dissimiliar to Plank Cap's recollection of a bee on the nose of the Alouette, I recalled seeing a 206 making regular visits into Brooklands in the early 80's and which, if memory served, had similar markings.

Enter Hofmeister with the revelation that Von Furstenberg's 206 was D-HJFF which became G-BTWA below:



Bell 206B Jet Ranger II G-BTWA (formerly D-HJFF) belonging to Charles Hughesdon operated by Tradewinds Helicopters (a subsidiary of Hughesdon's Tradewinds Airways) arriving at Battersea c. 1983

I scarcely dared believe that HJFF was one and the same aircraft as that belonging to Charles Hughesdon who was a close friend of my godfather (but whom, sadly, I never met) and was astonished that Charles had kept the Baron's original tail markings.

I did meet his pilot however, on several occasions at Brooklands. I recall he was a slightly tall and slender chap, politely spoken and in the early 80's was starting to grey.

Of Charles Hughesdon here is the synopsis tendered at the launch of his book entitled "Flying Made It Happen.":

"Charles Hughesdon is the epitome of a self-made man; a hunter-down of business and a pursuer of pleasure. In A Flying Life he tells his remarkable life story for the first time; a leader and innovator in the field of insurance brokerage, a talented pilot and head of the hugely successful Tradewinds air-cargo company.

As a top business man he mixed with John Paul Getty, Robert Maxwell and Margaret Thatcher. Hughesdon's marriage to film star Florence Desmond in 1937 brought him into contact with all the stars of the day and the couple's home Dunsborough Park in Surrey, became a regular retreat for the celebrity set of the day. David Niven, Jack Hawkins, Ava Gardner, Frank Sinatra, Shirley Bassey and Elizabeth Taylor all feature in this frank and revealing biography.

Hughesdon's relationship with ballerina Margot Fonteyn - an affair that lasted for fifteen years - illustrates his lifelong passion for beautiful women. A Flying Life is the story of an entrepreneur whose passion for his work is matched only by his passion for life."



Now for some joining-the-dots which, I know, is usually Earl's preserve but perhaps you can do that next time friend!

D-HJFF was owned by a continental contemporary of the Duke of Westminster, Baron Heinrich von Furstenberg making the two of them among the few helicopter-owning (both of them had Bell 206's) noblemen in Europe. One could therefore consider HJFF a cousin of TALY's!

The image (the only one available as far as I am aware) of HJFF under Von Furstenberg's ownership is part of the Getty Images stock. John Paul Getty was a freind of Charles Hughesdon who knew both my godfather and Ava Gardner who was a friend to my grandfather!

And .. seeing as Dennis the Menace has become connected to practically every story on this entire thread there seems no point in stopping now. Dennis queried the whereabouts of Donald Donnelly citing his location as Ripley in Surrey which of course was the location of Charles Hughesdon's home, Dunsborough, the venue for his noteable 'fly-in' garden parties which were attended by a colourful assortment of military and civilian guests and, on several occasions, by HRH The Duke of Edinburgh.

Perhaps it is pushing it to expect that there is someone who can respond but .. I would be immensely grateful for any information about D-HJFF while it was in the Von Furstenberg stable.

Grazie Mille!

S.

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Old 5th Sep 2010, 03:10   #158 (permalink)
 
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Sadly Don passed away in the early nineties. He was JG-S right hand man at Heliwork in the late 70's and early eighties. A very dapper character..reminded me a bit of Roger Moore
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Helicopter Garden Parties

Found this link on the "Pathe News" archive detailing one of the legendary helicopter garden parties hosted by Charles Hughesdon. Might be of interest to some..............hope it hasn't been linked before.

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HELICOPTER PARTY - British Pathe
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Pathe film - a SKEETER!

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What iinvaluable footage! The more so that I could strangle some of the mightier-than-thou within the CAA in about 19-mid seventies. Separate thread about Skeeters (now grounded) refers on the disposal of spares (HUGE quantities LOL) from the late Francis Chamberlain's estate; the point is this. Francis and I had worked together in and out of the Army, Middle East, Africa and Scotland over a period of many years. He bought a Skeeter Mk12 and registered it G-SARO as befits its heritage. I attended to the total strip and rebuild - and the 'negotiations', in themselves pretty strenuous conversations as I recall, with the Counter Aviation Authority to try and secure a Private Category C of A. Pushing water uphill would have been easier. In the end, if we were EVER to fly this machine we would have to settle for a Permit - NOT the original intention at all.

The reason? CAA refused to countenance an application for a C of A on the grounds that one had never been issued and that the aircraft would have to have a full Type-Certificate appraisal (which would have cost ££££1000s and taken me to an early grave, if not retirement). And then here you come, 35 years later, with all the evidence I need to commit legal homicide whilst under the influence of severe provocation and frustration in equal measure.

I am enormously grateful. The stumbling block with whom I had to deal was a real ole . It appears that I may well beat him to that big bar in the sky, in which I shall run up the biggest tab imagineable. Then St Peter can ask him to get his BIG cheque book out at the entrance gates

Since he is still around, living in happy retirement in Sussex somewhere I understand, I intend to secure his e-mail address and wreck his sublime smugness once and for all by clipping this Pathe film, and requesting an apology. Then I can get on with packing for that great journey happy in the knowledge that 'every LAE will have his day', if you will forgive the adaption of an old adage.

Earl, Savoia, Dennis et all sorry for a bit of 'Fred Slippage' here, but I just had to comment. Made my day, I'll have another VERY LARGE glass of red wine then............ hic! Cheers ~ VFR
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