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Another Aussie Ranger
This is Clyde Helicopters G-BRDL in use with Barossa Helicopters, South Australia as VH-FRL, retained its 'Barr's Irn Bru' colours throughout its time with Barossa, 1997 to 2006, when sold was repainted and registered VH-JTI, sadly crashed in Queensland in 2009, fuel starvation, sad loss for a grand machine.
photo from Bridgette Kies, Barossa Helicopters.
WA
photo from Bridgette Kies, Barossa Helicopters.
WA
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Repainted .. and still wearing the Saltire by the look of it. How thoughtful of those wonderfully accommodating Aussies!
Another Saltire-wearing craft was this RN SAR King:
(I do so enjoy Hogmanay in Auld Reekie).
Repainted .. and still wearing the Saltire by the look of it. How thoughtful of those wonderfully accommodating Aussies!
Another Saltire-wearing craft was this RN SAR King:
(I do so enjoy Hogmanay in Auld Reekie).
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When she was with Barossa, retained the orange and blue that she carried at Clyde, down to the saltire on the near side, after sale was repainted into a modern two shades of green and yellow stripe livery, lost the saltire then - 2006 -, Bridgette told me they liked the orange colour scheme, and the saltire.
The Sea King I take it is from RNAS Gannet at Prestwick?
'Rescue 177' maybe
WA
another of VH-FRL, bit of good parking....
When she was with Barossa, retained the orange and blue that she carried at Clyde, down to the saltire on the near side, after sale was repainted into a modern two shades of green and yellow stripe livery, lost the saltire then - 2006 -, Bridgette told me they liked the orange colour scheme, and the saltire.
The Sea King I take it is from RNAS Gannet at Prestwick?
'Rescue 177' maybe
WA
another of VH-FRL, bit of good parking....
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Biggin 206 & Tiger Moth
Yes Savoia,
Sadly I was fifty yards from the Ferranti 206/Tiger Moth collision being parked at the 03 (then) threshold waiting lift-off clearance when the Bell lifted from the adjacent grass. The pilot failed to make the standard look-out turn and lifted with four pleasure flying pax and climbed into the underside of the landing Tiger Moth. The M/R blades severed both wheels from the Moth as the M/R hub system parted from the Bell 206 airframe. Very fortunately for the spectators, the hull and M/R assy impacted just a few feet clear of the crowd line or I may have witnessed another Farnborough disaster.
Loved the G-BATU Enstrol pic outside the Spooner show tent at Cranfield. I gave the task of training the buyer, a certain Dick Hampton, to that wonderful character ex-Squadron Leader Tony (Nobby) Clarke, DFC. How could any parents called Hampton name their male child Dick!!!
Does anyone have a pic of the cartoon painted and displayed inside the Spoonair tent at the Cranfield show. The cartoon featured myself as a uniformed CP with a dozen rings and wings, my boss Roy Spooner with loads of pound notes tumbling from his pocket, and our Chief Engineer Bob Myatt dangling beneath a 1920 type helicopter spannering up the 'Jesus nuts' all while airborne.
Reference the float equipped G-BENO Enstrom. I hate to tell of the day I half sank the machine on landing to participate in the boat show at Brighton Marina. My ground/water handling boat crew attached the mooring ropes to the floats and not the skids which when pulled promptly shifted along the skid tubes allowing the spinning T/R and half the airframe to disappear beneath the waves!
The local rag ran the headline ... Shoreham pilot 'Plops In' to Boat Show.
More DK cock-ups on request.
Dennis Kenyon.
Sadly I was fifty yards from the Ferranti 206/Tiger Moth collision being parked at the 03 (then) threshold waiting lift-off clearance when the Bell lifted from the adjacent grass. The pilot failed to make the standard look-out turn and lifted with four pleasure flying pax and climbed into the underside of the landing Tiger Moth. The M/R blades severed both wheels from the Moth as the M/R hub system parted from the Bell 206 airframe. Very fortunately for the spectators, the hull and M/R assy impacted just a few feet clear of the crowd line or I may have witnessed another Farnborough disaster.
Loved the G-BATU Enstrol pic outside the Spooner show tent at Cranfield. I gave the task of training the buyer, a certain Dick Hampton, to that wonderful character ex-Squadron Leader Tony (Nobby) Clarke, DFC. How could any parents called Hampton name their male child Dick!!!
Does anyone have a pic of the cartoon painted and displayed inside the Spoonair tent at the Cranfield show. The cartoon featured myself as a uniformed CP with a dozen rings and wings, my boss Roy Spooner with loads of pound notes tumbling from his pocket, and our Chief Engineer Bob Myatt dangling beneath a 1920 type helicopter spannering up the 'Jesus nuts' all while airborne.
Reference the float equipped G-BENO Enstrom. I hate to tell of the day I half sank the machine on landing to participate in the boat show at Brighton Marina. My ground/water handling boat crew attached the mooring ropes to the floats and not the skids which when pulled promptly shifted along the skid tubes allowing the spinning T/R and half the airframe to disappear beneath the waves!
The local rag ran the headline ... Shoreham pilot 'Plops In' to Boat Show.
More DK cock-ups on request.
Dennis Kenyon.
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While the Department of Trade (Accidents Investigation Branch) concluded that Ferranti's pilot was to blame for the accident, citing failure to perform a 360° clearing turn prior to take-off, it should be noted that the Tiger Moth (the pilot of which had a total of 100 hours flight time and was authorised to wear spectacles for corrected distant vision) was, crucially, radioless.
Needless to say my godfather never accepted these findings emphasising the fact that the pilot of the Moth had never read the NOTAM covering the special arrangements for the show and which included the requirement of prior notification and disallowed landings on the grass runway towards which the Moth was headed. [The location of the operation of Ferranti's 206 has been allocated by Biggin Hill on the assumption that, with the grass strip closed, the allocated area (including the air space above it) would be free from traffic.]
An excerpt from the report reads: "The accident would most probably not have happened had the pilot of the Tiger Moth taken the simple precaution of telephoning Biggin Hill before departure and ascertaining if it was possible to use the grass strip, particularly as the NOTAM stated that ALL aircraft will have to use runways 03/21 ONLY and that the grass strip [to which the Tiger Moth was approaching] was closed during the show."
The Biggin Hill disaster of 1977 has been credited with shaping legislation which eventually required all aircraft be radio-equipped but, as with much progress in aviation, sacrifice was required. In this case Hugh Lovett and his four passengers. (RIP)
A more in-depth analysis of this crash (along with the alarming images of Ferranti's 206 being struck by the Moth) will be detailed on the Ferranti site.
More Floating Entroms ..
Enstrom clearly had a garage sale going on in the early 80's for their float gear as can be seen by another one of Dennisimo's 'floating Entroms' below:
Enstrom F28C G-BHAX at Shoreham in December 1980 (Photo: Keith Sowter)
This craft was sold to one of Dennisimo's longstanding clients, Flair Soft Drinks of Leatherhead, Surrey, who also bought (through Dennis) the ex-Ferranti JetRanger G-AWJW.
The last time I saw Cy Rose (Cranfield '79) he had just bought an F28C (I think) - at least it looked similar to the craft above.
While the Department of Trade (Accidents Investigation Branch) concluded that Ferranti's pilot was to blame for the accident, citing failure to perform a 360° clearing turn prior to take-off, it should be noted that the Tiger Moth (the pilot of which had a total of 100 hours flight time and was authorised to wear spectacles for corrected distant vision) was, crucially, radioless.
Needless to say my godfather never accepted these findings emphasising the fact that the pilot of the Moth had never read the NOTAM covering the special arrangements for the show and which included the requirement of prior notification and disallowed landings on the grass runway towards which the Moth was headed. [The location of the operation of Ferranti's 206 has been allocated by Biggin Hill on the assumption that, with the grass strip closed, the allocated area (including the air space above it) would be free from traffic.]
An excerpt from the report reads: "The accident would most probably not have happened had the pilot of the Tiger Moth taken the simple precaution of telephoning Biggin Hill before departure and ascertaining if it was possible to use the grass strip, particularly as the NOTAM stated that ALL aircraft will have to use runways 03/21 ONLY and that the grass strip [to which the Tiger Moth was approaching] was closed during the show."
The Biggin Hill disaster of 1977 has been credited with shaping legislation which eventually required all aircraft be radio-equipped but, as with much progress in aviation, sacrifice was required. In this case Hugh Lovett and his four passengers. (RIP)
A more in-depth analysis of this crash (along with the alarming images of Ferranti's 206 being struck by the Moth) will be detailed on the Ferranti site.
More Floating Entroms ..
Enstrom clearly had a garage sale going on in the early 80's for their float gear as can be seen by another one of Dennisimo's 'floating Entroms' below:
Enstrom F28C G-BHAX at Shoreham in December 1980 (Photo: Keith Sowter)
This craft was sold to one of Dennisimo's longstanding clients, Flair Soft Drinks of Leatherhead, Surrey, who also bought (through Dennis) the ex-Ferranti JetRanger G-AWJW.
The last time I saw Cy Rose (Cranfield '79) he had just bought an F28C (I think) - at least it looked similar to the craft above.
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A French-made Englishman in Italy!
Well, I had to drop this in given that the craft in question is leased by a firm (Elitop) who are located in my neighbourhood.
Originally on the Japanese register this craft seems to have been bought by Russels Farm of Watford in 1994 but by 2009 had been acquired by Giuseppe Mazza (who's initials appear for'ard of the exhaust) and who brought the craft to Italy but, for reasons I am unaware of, has elected to maintain her on the British register. As mentioned, she is currently leased by Elitop of Montichiari which is south-east of Brescia (east of Milano) and roughly halfway along the road between Brescia and Lago di Garda (Lake Garda).
She is pictured in Albenga which is part of the Italian Riviera known as Il Riviera delle Palme (the Riviera of palms) in the Province of Savona.
AS350BA G-FIBS (formerly JA9732) at the Aeroporto di Villanova d'Albenga on 24th July 2011 (Photo: Luigi Maccio)
Originally on the Japanese register this craft seems to have been bought by Russels Farm of Watford in 1994 but by 2009 had been acquired by Giuseppe Mazza (who's initials appear for'ard of the exhaust) and who brought the craft to Italy but, for reasons I am unaware of, has elected to maintain her on the British register. As mentioned, she is currently leased by Elitop of Montichiari which is south-east of Brescia (east of Milano) and roughly halfway along the road between Brescia and Lago di Garda (Lake Garda).
She is pictured in Albenga which is part of the Italian Riviera known as Il Riviera delle Palme (the Riviera of palms) in the Province of Savona.
AS350BA G-FIBS (formerly JA9732) at the Aeroporto di Villanova d'Albenga on 24th July 2011 (Photo: Luigi Maccio)
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British Army Westland-Bell Sioux XT228 in Bahrain in 1969
While our small RAF contingent was baking in the relentless sun of Bahrain at Hamala Camp in July 1969 with the Royal Anglian Regiment, this Army Sioux suddenly turned up.
I have since learned that it was sold in 1979 to become D-HAFR, and subsequently OE-CXS in Austria, D-HHBB and OE-CXS again before being scrapped.
The registration D-HAFR is now carried by a Bell 205A-1.
- Peter Langsdale
I have since learned that it was sold in 1979 to become D-HAFR, and subsequently OE-CXS in Austria, D-HHBB and OE-CXS again before being scrapped.
The registration D-HAFR is now carried by a Bell 205A-1.
- Peter Langsdale
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In post 810 G-BBCA made her Nostalgia Thread debut when I mentioned that she was the second craft belonging to the Hambros Bank stable. Hambros and the late John Dicken have been the subject of my interest although, so far, I have been unable to gather much information. What G-BBCA threw up however was an outfit known as 'Time Aviation' (registered in London) which joins the ranks of smaller British helicopter operators with which I was previously unfamiliar. Others have included Freemans of Bewdly, Twyford Moors and BenTurner - the latter, so I was to discover, having accommodated my godfather as a director.
Today a second Time Aviation 206 cropped-up, G-BBFB:
Bell 206B JetRanger II G-BBFB belonging to Time Aviation as seen at Biggin Hill on 18th May 1974 (Photo: Jonathan Walton)
Wearing the same minimalistic (predominantly white) livery, trimmed only by the slightest blue and red stripes, BBFB finds herself surrounded by nostalgia! To 'FB's' side is a Sopwith Camel which was designed by Sir Thomas Sopwith father of rotary-wing flyer Tommy Sopwith who was discussed some pages back. To 'FB's' rear quarter is a Sea Fury (or so it appears) which was designed and manufactured by Sir Thomas' company Hawker, so named after Sopwith's Chief Test Pilot, Harry Hawker. The Sea Fury remains one of the most exquisite WWII fighters ever built and still thrills with her distinctive sound, a sampling of which can be heard here.
In the photo the 'Time Ranger' obscures a quartet of Pitts Specials from the Rothman's Aerobatic Team one of which, clearly, is G-BADY and the other just might be G-AXNZ. 'NZ' of course was the Pitts purchased by the late great Peter Cadbury (aka The Cad) and a comment from PPRuNer FAStoat on another thread reads:
While on Rothmans, Brian Lecomber (who I think used to fly as RAT 4) was a dear friend to my father and was present during my first encounter with the sauce in the late 70's at Yeadon Aero Club, Leeds. I still recall that the barmaid was named Hilda, lol!
From Time Aviation BBFB moved on to Hanson's, in 1978, who retained her until 1981.
G-BBFB - the subject of attention at Battersea Heliport on 15th July 1981 (Photo: Peter de Zeeuw)
I would be keen to discover further details about Time Aviation.
In post 810 G-BBCA made her Nostalgia Thread debut when I mentioned that she was the second craft belonging to the Hambros Bank stable. Hambros and the late John Dicken have been the subject of my interest although, so far, I have been unable to gather much information. What G-BBCA threw up however was an outfit known as 'Time Aviation' (registered in London) which joins the ranks of smaller British helicopter operators with which I was previously unfamiliar. Others have included Freemans of Bewdly, Twyford Moors and BenTurner - the latter, so I was to discover, having accommodated my godfather as a director.
Today a second Time Aviation 206 cropped-up, G-BBFB:
Bell 206B JetRanger II G-BBFB belonging to Time Aviation as seen at Biggin Hill on 18th May 1974 (Photo: Jonathan Walton)
Wearing the same minimalistic (predominantly white) livery, trimmed only by the slightest blue and red stripes, BBFB finds herself surrounded by nostalgia! To 'FB's' side is a Sopwith Camel which was designed by Sir Thomas Sopwith father of rotary-wing flyer Tommy Sopwith who was discussed some pages back. To 'FB's' rear quarter is a Sea Fury (or so it appears) which was designed and manufactured by Sir Thomas' company Hawker, so named after Sopwith's Chief Test Pilot, Harry Hawker. The Sea Fury remains one of the most exquisite WWII fighters ever built and still thrills with her distinctive sound, a sampling of which can be heard here.
In the photo the 'Time Ranger' obscures a quartet of Pitts Specials from the Rothman's Aerobatic Team one of which, clearly, is G-BADY and the other just might be G-AXNZ. 'NZ' of course was the Pitts purchased by the late great Peter Cadbury (aka The Cad) and a comment from PPRuNer FAStoat on another thread reads:
Andrew Chadwick is a name that comes to mind as the engineer that Peter Cadbury hired to modify the Pitts. He fitted spades under the ailerons and flared them adding droop to get a faster rate of roll.
From Time Aviation BBFB moved on to Hanson's, in 1978, who retained her until 1981.
G-BBFB - the subject of attention at Battersea Heliport on 15th July 1981 (Photo: Peter de Zeeuw)
I would be keen to discover further details about Time Aviation.
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Look out, fix-winged content! The Sea Fury is the late Ormond Haydon-Baillie's G-AGHB which was badly damaged in Spencer Flack's first Sea Fury prang in Germany - it was eventually rebuilt with a P&W R4360 and is now a Reno racer. I suspect the Camel is actually a Pup, either Shuttleworth's or one of the examples rebuilt by Des St Cyrien; the other Pitts is G-BADZ. I was seven miles away as a Jet Ranger flies, 10 years old and not allowed to attend on my own! 
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Hi Peeps
i was wondering if any of you may have pictures or stories relating to helicopter operations at Oxford/Kidlington, i would love to see some pics of the Jet rangers G-BRMH G-BLCA G-OJFR G-STST G-MFMF . i worked at oxford on the flight line 1983-1995 and can relate to lots of the people and helicopters discussed in this fantastic thread, my father Dave Brown was the chief engineer at CSE for 43 years so i grew up around the place i can remember seeing the MET 222,s being build up in the hangar and to a young lad i thought they were the best looking gadget i had ever seen. Instructors at the school during my time were Bob Harris, Hugh Cahoon, Mike Smith, Graham Forbes, Andy gutteridge, George Warren. Look foward to see what comes back
Regards Chris Brown
i was wondering if any of you may have pictures or stories relating to helicopter operations at Oxford/Kidlington, i would love to see some pics of the Jet rangers G-BRMH G-BLCA G-OJFR G-STST G-MFMF . i worked at oxford on the flight line 1983-1995 and can relate to lots of the people and helicopters discussed in this fantastic thread, my father Dave Brown was the chief engineer at CSE for 43 years so i grew up around the place i can remember seeing the MET 222,s being build up in the hangar and to a young lad i thought they were the best looking gadget i had ever seen. Instructors at the school during my time were Bob Harris, Hugh Cahoon, Mike Smith, Graham Forbes, Andy gutteridge, George Warren. Look foward to see what comes back
Regards Chris Brown
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Dear Chris
I'm sorry that there haven't yet been any 'bites' in response to your post but, Rotorheads is an unpredictable place so keep checking because someone may well come back with some interesting information.
In the meantime what I can do is highlight some of the history behind G-BRMH which previously flew as G-BBUX; a craft covered earlier in this thread.
BBUX was imported by CSE (she was a Bell) in 1973 and was sold to William Monks of Sheffield in 1974. I know very little about Monks other than apart from being a builders merchant, William Monks had a passion for rotorcraft. Dennis Kenyon was also involved in this sale:
In 1977 Monks would buy the Agusta-built 206 G-WIZZ from Mann's which was later acquired by one of Dennis Kenyon's business partners, Peter Millward. Prior to her delivery to Sheffield, WIZZ sailed into Fairoaks from Agusta's facility in Frosinone (south east of Rome along the road to Napoli) courtesy of PPRuNer Geoffersincornwall. WIZZ's delivery story can be read on page 2 where you will also find the 'Wizz the Bizz' poem. A photo of WIZZ on the tarmac at Gatwick (during her delivery flight) can be found on page 3.
The helicopter industry can get a little incestuous at times, as you will see from the following: From Monks BBUX was bought by Mann's who sold her to Peter Cadbury becoming (in 1975) The Cad's second 206 after G-BAKU. Photos of BBUX in the Air Pegasus (Peter Cadbury's charter company) livery can be seen on page 20. Also on page 20 is a photo of the great Mike Smith from his Air Gregory days. Further images, courtesy of PPRuNer Helipixman, of both BAKU and BBUX, appear on page 22.
From Cadbury's BBUX went on to British Car Auctions and eventually full-circle to CSE in 1980. In '81 she was sold to RMH Stainless Steel when she began her journey as G-BRMH and which passage ended when she was exported to Belgium in 1996.
Well, if he's still around he should have a sackful of stories surrounding the servicings and shenanigans associated with the aircraft of CSE's many and varied clients some of which you must already know about, so please .. spill the beans lol!
Sav
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Dear Chris
I'm sorry that there haven't yet been any 'bites' in response to your post but, Rotorheads is an unpredictable place so keep checking because someone may well come back with some interesting information.
In the meantime what I can do is highlight some of the history behind G-BRMH which previously flew as G-BBUX; a craft covered earlier in this thread.
BBUX was imported by CSE (she was a Bell) in 1973 and was sold to William Monks of Sheffield in 1974. I know very little about Monks other than apart from being a builders merchant, William Monks had a passion for rotorcraft. Dennis Kenyon was also involved in this sale:
Dennis Kenyon wrote: I purchased two B206s one week and registered them consecutively G-BBUX and G-BBUY. I sold G-BBUX to a Mr Bill Gates of the Monks Group but taught him to fly on an Enstrom from his Hunstanton holiday home which you could do in those days. Most of the flying was done at Norwich Airport. Being a weighty fellah, he hated the piston and in short time, I took the Enstrom, G-BBBZ back for the new Bell. The price for a new Forth Worth B206 was £84,000 believe it or not. The Enstrom 28A just £23,000.
The helicopter industry can get a little incestuous at times, as you will see from the following: From Monks BBUX was bought by Mann's who sold her to Peter Cadbury becoming (in 1975) The Cad's second 206 after G-BAKU. Photos of BBUX in the Air Pegasus (Peter Cadbury's charter company) livery can be seen on page 20. Also on page 20 is a photo of the great Mike Smith from his Air Gregory days. Further images, courtesy of PPRuNer Helipixman, of both BAKU and BBUX, appear on page 22.
From Cadbury's BBUX went on to British Car Auctions and eventually full-circle to CSE in 1980. In '81 she was sold to RMH Stainless Steel when she began her journey as G-BRMH and which passage ended when she was exported to Belgium in 1996.
My father Dave Brown was the chief engineer at CSE for 43 years ..
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G-WIZZ
Hi Savoia ... knowing you like accuracy this is just to say that in 1982 I purchased G-WIZZ as a damaged helicopter, (heavy landing at Leeds/Bradford) but sufficiently heavy to be bought from insurers for £17,000. The previous owners were the Robinson family (a lawyer practice) from Weybridge. My Skyline engineering division re-built her for AOC work until she was sold. Note the famous G-WIIZZ registration on one side which few spotted, apparently not even you for a while!
Regards to all nostalgists. Dennis Kenyon.
Regards to all nostalgists. Dennis Kenyon.
MRR,
Knew Hugh Cahoon (huge balloon) from my brief stay with Agricopters in Chilbolton circa 1983, where he used to freelance for Peter Boitel-Gill back in the good old days.
Seem to recall he made the most splendid home brew wine which that year was a vintage "Hiller Killer".
Great character, hope he's still with us.
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Knew Hugh Cahoon (huge balloon) from my brief stay with Agricopters in Chilbolton circa 1983, where he used to freelance for Peter Boitel-Gill back in the good old days.
Seem to recall he made the most splendid home brew wine which that year was a vintage "Hiller Killer".
Great character, hope he's still with us.
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G-MFMF has been with SWEB now WPD at Bristol 1986. Last time I saw her 2 months back she was getting a new tub.
They also run G-BARP and G-ZAPH which is new to the fleet.
They also run G-BARP and G-ZAPH which is new to the fleet.
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Mmmm ...
Anybody got a clue as to where G-OIML (aka G-TCMM or G-JMVB ?) might now be ....
I flew it around for a bit when with Trent Air Services back in 1981/2.
It was a very nice machine ....
Anybody got a clue as to where G-OIML (aka G-TCMM or G-JMVB ?) might now be ....
I flew it around for a bit when with Trent Air Services back in 1981/2.
It was a very nice machine ....
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G-OIML
Agusta-Bell 206B JetRanger III, belonging to Autair Ltd (Freddie Wilcox) and leased to Trent Helicopters, seen at Cranfield on 4th July 1982 (Photo: Michael Haslam)
From post 483 on page 25 of this thread:
My godfather persuaded Andrew Walters (owner of International Messengers) to purchase a new Agusta-built 206 and shortly thereafter Ferranti placed this order with Mann's. The new aircraft was delivered in November '78 as G-OIML and was, to the best of my knowledge, the first Agusta-built JetRanger III in the UK. She was owned by International Messengers Ltd but operated by Ferranti. Unusually for a managed aircraft, IML wore Ferranti's livery complete with the Royal Mail cypher.
Among her latter owners was Southernair of Shoreham whereafter she crossed the Irish Sea flying for a time with Westair of Shannon becomming G-TCMM. In 2004 she was acquired by the pilot's shop Transair and was again based at Shoreham. After a further UK owner she again returned to the Emerald Isle, this time to Wexford, (still keeping her UK registration) before finally being shipped-off to Australia earlier this year.
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Mmmm ...
Savoia ... Thank you so much .... brought back some fond memories ... I will have to try and track her down if she is still here in Oz ...
Cheers
Savoia ... Thank you so much .... brought back some fond memories ... I will have to try and track her down if she is still here in Oz ...
Cheers