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Old 29th Mar 2009, 15:57   #1 (permalink)
 
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PHI Nearly Loses Another S-76

Things kinda quiet in the GOM about the near loss of a PHI S-76 with ten people aboard.

Landed short on a Deck, folded the starboard main gear and ended with the port side main gear on the wire netting.

The photos are startling!

Aircraft tail number was N729P.....and no FAA Preliminary Report seen at the FAA web site.

Anyone got more information on this one?

The accident happened on the Apache ST-308 on the 24th of this month.

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Old 29th Mar 2009, 16:35   #2 (permalink)
 
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Any chance of seeing some pics, then?
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Old 29th Mar 2009, 16:58   #3 (permalink)
 
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yes, you can't say something like that to us 76 drivers and not post pics.


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Old 29th Mar 2009, 17:13   #4 (permalink)
 
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I saw the pics, sitting on the belly, probably quite flyable again.

pics at:

2 on Flickr - Photo Sharing!

1 on Flickr - Photo Sharing!
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Old 29th Mar 2009, 17:27   #5 (permalink)
 
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ooops!

...no need to post pics of the seat-cushions this time!
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Old 29th Mar 2009, 17:33   #6 (permalink)
 
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Deck Aiming Circles

Well JimL, here's another cove who hasn't read the ICAO guide to the proper use of deck aiming circles.

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Old 29th Mar 2009, 17:39   #7 (permalink)
 
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Aiming Circles? We don't need no stinking Aiming Circles!

Mind you there was no mention of an engine failure or anything....perhaps a bit of near sightedness?
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Old 29th Mar 2009, 18:15   #8 (permalink)
 
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Wow!

That scares the hell out of me just looking at it never mind being strapped inside it.

I wonder who got out first and how that conversation went?
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Old 29th Mar 2009, 18:52   #9 (permalink)
 
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NO SHIT!!! Somebody just had incredible luck...
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Old 29th Mar 2009, 19:12   #10 (permalink)
 
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Talk of turbulence and junior crew making a low approach...

I take it no NTSB involvement.
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Old 29th Mar 2009, 20:38   #11 (permalink)
 
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The pilot was Maxwell Smart (Secret Agent 86), explained shortly after by a shoe 'phone call to the Chief of Control: "Sorry about that Chief, missed it by THAT much".

Seriously, anyone know if the blades made contact with the deck under power? If so I then the repair bill would be a lifetime of pilot pay checks.

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Old 29th Mar 2009, 21:22   #12 (permalink)
 
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How could that happen? Easy enough, if you're used to flying 407s and you land it where you would land a 407. The S76 is just a little larger than a 407, and the main gear is just a little further aft than the rear of a 407's skid...


As for aiming circles, Apache wastes no money on unnecessary paint, or on anything else.
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Old 30th Mar 2009, 04:58   #13 (permalink)
 
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N729P is a Beech 36, and the pix doesn't look like one of those
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Old 30th Mar 2009, 06:51   #14 (permalink)
 
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Is this a substitute for the CAP 437 perimiter safety net DROP TEST!
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Old 30th Mar 2009, 07:05   #15 (permalink)
 
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A good reason for putting the heavier passengers towards the front!
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Old 30th Mar 2009, 08:24   #16 (permalink)
 
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Hi!
I think thi type of the aircraft have problem with the power. I am flying on the EC-155B with that problem also. the power some time not strong enought! so wen the aircraft on profile to land, it request very strickly to use the power. specially in the hot temperature erea.
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Old 30th Mar 2009, 09:46   #17 (permalink)
 
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Lucky? This guy should buy a lottery ticket !!

Who knows what happened here but either way judging from the safety of the armchair next to the hindsight couch, the aircraft is about 2-3 feet from toppling over backwards. Glad to hear no one got seriously hurt this time.
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Old 30th Mar 2009, 10:01   #18 (permalink)
 
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The Movie Game

Looks like a dry run for a US version of The Italian Job..............

voice of Michael Caine - Don't worry boys..... I've got a great idea...

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Old 30th Mar 2009, 13:01   #19 (permalink)
 
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What is this "Flat Approach" profile used by PHI I am hearing about?

Why would one want to do a "Flat" approach?

Is not a steep approach with a slow forward airspeed with power carried throughout the approach better than a run in at speed and trying to time a flare type landing?

Where do we draw the line between a "Flat Approach" and "Hot Dogging" ?
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Old 30th Mar 2009, 13:11   #20 (permalink)
 
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I think 792P would be the correct N number. SASless may be slightly dyslexic.

Some people like flatter approaches, some like steeper. Having seen the results of flat approaches over the years, I prefer steeper. I wasn't present on this approach, so I have no idea what the approach angle was. I do know that this isn't the first time a PHI S76 has put the main gear in the fence, though. Power was not likely the problem in this case. The S76A++ has the engines of a C, but the max gross weight of an A, and thus lots of power available. It may have the best power/weight ratio of any S76 variant, and I've never come close to running out of power in one, even in the summer.
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