EC-155 cockpit
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Hi guys, my name is Nate. I have been a lurker in this forum for a while now. I design 3d helicopters for Microsoft Flight Simulator. You all have provided endless amount of information for some of my projects. So a big THANK YOU! I wish I was a pilot, but unfortunately when I came back from Iraq I was diagnosed with epilepsy, so my chances of being a pilot are slim to none.
Anyway on to the main question at hand....
Right now I am working on a EC-155 for Flight Simulator and I need help in the cockpit area. I have a great view of the panel, collective, cyclic but nothing from the overhead console or engine controls. Can anyone help out in that area? I have searched high and low for pics, but have turned up empty. Here is a quick view of the outside....
Anyway on to the main question at hand....
Right now I am working on a EC-155 for Flight Simulator and I need help in the cockpit area. I have a great view of the panel, collective, cyclic but nothing from the overhead console or engine controls. Can anyone help out in that area? I have searched high and low for pics, but have turned up empty. Here is a quick view of the outside....
I saw the picture of G-WJCJ on here and wanted loved it! That paint scheme reminds me a lot of the Miami Dolphin's owners EC-155.
Nater, if you send me a PM with your e-mail, I'll send some extracts from the groundschool training manual. Look forward to the finished product. If you want any guidance or mor info, feel free to ask. I've got FMS info too, if you plan to incorporate that.
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Airframe Identification
Well done, but please accept these comments in the spirit in which they are meant. Using the colour scheme of an actual airframe is not a problem, but identifying it with a registration could raise potential difficulties and issues that would be better avoided. Surely there is no need to attach this identification mark, and maybe the model could be de-identified - in accordance with a longheld and valued principle within aviation.
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Hey there MSP!
Yes, MSP is correct. There are a lot of non-fictional aircraft for Microsoft Flight Simulator that have correct registrations. I honestly do not see where the problem would be.
Yes, MSP is correct. There are a lot of non-fictional aircraft for Microsoft Flight Simulator that have correct registrations. I honestly do not see where the problem would be.
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There is a problem! We operate this aircraft on behalf of its owner, and we would appreciate it if you could do us a favour on this one - just remove the registration please! I don't think we are really asking for a lot on this.
DrSJM, Can you please explain where the problem is here? What about all of the people who are avid flightsimmers who see partcular a/c about and then get the chance to associate their game with the real thing? I think you're being a bit petty actually. personally, i'd be happy if my a/c was copied. unfortunately all I can afford is a simulated a/c. 
I can't believe there would be copyright laws about this. Especially when you can change your a/c reg to anything you want in flight sim.
I can't believe there would be copyright laws about this. Especially when you can change your a/c reg to anything you want in flight sim.
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Exactly. What about all the American Airlines, BA, Lufthansa, United etc. There are hundreds of airliners that have exact registrations. But if you wish, I will not release the paint scheme when I release the aircraft for the public. (But I am willing to bet my paycheck that someone will do the paint scheme with registration after)
I agree with DrSJM, it would be better to have the registration removed.
Most pilots like to have the machines they fly recognised but we can't usually afford the larger models. The problem is the owners. Generally they dont like having their machines publishised and can be quite unreasonable in their demands.
So if DrSJM asks politely if the registration can be removed, I don't think it is too much to ask to respect his wishes. it may mean he keeps the management contract.
This may seem unreasonable to some but you have to see how these people operate to believe it.
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Most pilots like to have the machines they fly recognised but we can't usually afford the larger models. The problem is the owners. Generally they dont like having their machines publishised and can be quite unreasonable in their demands.
So if DrSJM asks politely if the registration can be removed, I don't think it is too much to ask to respect his wishes. it may mean he keeps the management contract.
This may seem unreasonable to some but you have to see how these people operate to believe it.
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just remove the registration please!
OOPS! Forgot about the Russkies. Perhaps they are afraid someone will fly the sim a/c into the ground 1 mile short of the runway at Bournemouth??
Am I in a bad mood this morning or something?
Nater, Just put whatever reg on it you want. It's a bloody game and to hell with real life!! LMAO
Am I in a bad mood this morning or something?
Nater, Just put whatever reg on it you want. It's a bloody game and to hell with real life!! LMAO
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If the registration is so immaterial, then by the same argument surely removing it is immaterial - if it makes life a bit easier for other people. We are not insisting on it, we are not wishing to imply that anything incorrect has been done - just asking a favour. It's great work, the colour scheme looks good, etc. but managing aviation can sometimes have all manner of complications, too involved to try and explain. The request is SIMPLY, in the spirit of friendly cooperation amongts aviation minded people - DO US A FAVOUR. Who the owner is does not come into this, it's just a little manner of common courtesy.Whether somebody can apply whatever registration they like afterwards is another matter. I'll just reiterate, if it doesn't matter to you, please accept that it matters to us a LITTLE bit, and we would be eternally grateful if you just didn't publish the model with that registration on it.
Very genuinely, my thanks - and don't let this get out of proportion.
Very genuinely, my thanks - and don't let this get out of proportion.
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Guys, don't get me wrong. I have no problem changing the registration and/ or color scheme to something else. I just liked the picture I saw and decided to apply it to my model. I most likely will not release the scheme to the general public anyways.
edit....after a quick google search, I most definately NOT release the aircraft scheme even with or without registration....Nothing more needs to be said about the matter.
edit....after a quick google search, I most definately NOT release the aircraft scheme even with or without registration....Nothing more needs to be said about the matter.
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No, it is not that I am scared....Trust me after 6 years in the U.S. Army and 3 tours in combat areas, there is not a whole lot left for me to be scared of. I will put it like this....I fully understand where the good Dr. is coming from.
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May I add another angle to this conversation.
Following the unfortunate events of G-BLUN at the end of 2007, I heard that within the MS flight sim development communitee there is a group that develop oil rigs (the Offshore Development Group, ODG) and repaint the associated companies helicopters. I requested the registration G-BLUN be added to CHC Dauphin paint schemes of which I proudly fly in the sim.
I would hope that CHC would be proud that the spirit of G-BLUN lives on in one form or another.
Helimutt, I respect your position in the aviation industry whatever position that may be but technically the sim is not a game as no one can win. I will add that I have met many real world pilots who use it to hone different skills therefore some may say some aspects of teh sim can be similar to real life.
As far as the original direction of the post goes, I can see both sides therefore I hope my post does not infer that I sit on one side of the fence or the other.
Best of luck Nater with your model, I hope to fly her one day (virtually of course) no matter what the registration is.
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Following the unfortunate events of G-BLUN at the end of 2007, I heard that within the MS flight sim development communitee there is a group that develop oil rigs (the Offshore Development Group, ODG) and repaint the associated companies helicopters. I requested the registration G-BLUN be added to CHC Dauphin paint schemes of which I proudly fly in the sim.
I would hope that CHC would be proud that the spirit of G-BLUN lives on in one form or another.
Helimutt, I respect your position in the aviation industry whatever position that may be but technically the sim is not a game as no one can win. I will add that I have met many real world pilots who use it to hone different skills therefore some may say some aspects of teh sim can be similar to real life.
As far as the original direction of the post goes, I can see both sides therefore I hope my post does not infer that I sit on one side of the fence or the other.
Best of luck Nater with your model, I hope to fly her one day (virtually of course) no matter what the registration is.
Regards
JimB