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Old 7th May 2024, 20:11
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So from these dates, the FTEJ in-person assessments (2 weeks) are before the virtual assessments - so that tells me that they decide on everything in its entirety rather than using the virtual assessments as a filter to the in-person assessments - I suppose the same with the Skyborne, but their in-person assessments are 3 weeks

So if the flight school assessments are a filter to the final BA assessment centre (which are 3 weeks), what is BA going to assess that the flight schools haven't?
I would think BA will be assessing people for company fit. Somebody might be smart enough to get through testing, assessment centres and flight school interviews, but if their personality, soft skills, and values don't fit the company then they wouldn't be selected.

Gotta be harsh to knock 25k down to 100. Still just a guess of course!
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Do you mean the 1st May?
Yeh, put 31st April then remembered that doesn’t exist 😂
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So from these dates, the FTEJ in-person assessments (2 weeks) are before the virtual assessments - so that tells me that they decide on everything in its entirety rather than using the virtual assessments as a filter to the in-person assessments - I suppose the same with the Skyborne, but their in-person assessments are 3 weeks

So if the flight school assessments are a filter to the final BA assessment centre (which are 3 weeks), what is BA going to assess that the flight schools haven't?

Last year, the flight school assessment was just a 30 minute interview about yourself and knowledge of the company and the BA one would be something like a grad scheme assessment day, so a group activity (my guess is a planning exercise similar to the RAF OASC) and another interview.
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I would think BA will be assessing people for company fit. Somebody might be smart enough to get through testing, assessment centres and flight school interviews, but if their personality, soft skills, and values don't fit the company then they wouldn't be selected.

Gotta be harsh to knock 25k down to 100. Still just a guess of course!
Makes sense - let the flight school assess the technical knowledge and let BA assess culture fit and personality - so more like an interview than an 'assessment day'
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Originally Posted by Roewester1
Last year, the flight school assessment was just a 30 minute interview about yourself and knowledge of the company and the BA one would be something like a grad scheme assessment day, so a group activity (my guess is a planning exercise similar to the RAF OASC) and another interview.
When you say knowledge of the company, do you mean the Flight School company? So they want to learn more about you and what you know of their flight school (what they do and how they do it etc)?
I don't know what the RAF OASC is so I'll be looking that up
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Evening all, been an avid viewer of this thread from afar so thought I'd contribute. I'm 40 years old and awaiting my results from the PAX announcement which I completed on 30th April. Spent the last 17 years as a Police Officer but this has always been my dream. Thankfully I have a very understanding family who are willing to sacrifice 18 months of their life to watch me achieve my my dream. Good luck to everyone who has so far made it through, it shouldn't be taken for granted what you've achieved
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Originally Posted by Ksw84
Evening all, been an avid viewer of this thread from afar so thought I'd contribute. I'm 40 years old and awaiting my results from the PAX announcement which I completed on 30th April. Spent the last 17 years as a Police Officer but this has always been my dream. Thankfully I have a very understanding family who are willing to sacrifice 18 months of their life to watch me achieve my my dream. Good luck to everyone who has so far made it through, it shouldn't be taken for granted what you've achieved
Hello! I also submitted just a day before you did, the BA marketing emails are really something when I get the notification haha!

Best of luck to you
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Old 8th May 2024, 07:11
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Originally Posted by TOPS
When you say knowledge of the company, do you mean the Flight School company? So they want to learn more about you and what you know of their flight school (what they do and how they do it etc)?
I don't know what the RAF OASC is so I'll be looking that up
Thanks

When I was at that stage last year I had 0 question asked about the flight school and it was fully about BA, the role of a pilot and myself. They might ask about the flight school this year so be prepared just in case. And the group planning exercise I mentioned is also done by direct entry BA pilots and its based of the planning exercise RAF officers will do at OASC so we have a lot of material to practice when it comes to the final stage.
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Originally Posted by Ksw84
Evening all, been an avid viewer of this thread from afar so thought I'd contribute. I'm 40 years old and awaiting my results from the PAX announcement which I completed on 30th April. Spent the last 17 years as a Police Officer but this has always been my dream. Thankfully I have a very understanding family who are willing to sacrifice 18 months of their life to watch me achieve my my dream. Good luck to everyone who has so far made it through, it shouldn't be taken for granted what you've achieved
Hello hello hello (sorry, couldn't help it!)
I've just turned 55 and this is my last chance - always loved aviation, but got caught in the career hamster wheel of life, and only because of my daughter I applied. So one and only chance for me as next time, I'll be too old!
I submitted the PA announcement the same day as you so please let me know when you hear back, good or bad news. I'll do the same and let you know - we can then see whether they're in submission order but it looks like they're sending out the rejection emails first - so I think no news is good news.
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Originally Posted by Roewester1
When I was at that stage last year I had 0 question asked about the flight school and it was fully about BA, the role of a pilot and myself. They might ask about the flight school this year so be prepared just in case. And the group planning exercise I mentioned is also done by direct entry BA pilots and its based of the planning exercise RAF officers will do at OASC so we have a lot of material to practice when it comes to the final stage.
Thanks for the reply and clarification - are you too waiting to hear the outcome from the PA announcement?
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Hello hello hello (sorry, couldn't help it!)
I've just turned 55 and this is my last chance - always loved aviation, but got caught in the career hamster wheel of life, and only because of my daughter I applied. So one and only chance for me as next time, I'll be too old!
I submitted the PA announcement the same day as you so please let me know when you hear back, good or bad news. I'll do the same and let you know - we can then see whether they're in submission order but it looks like they're sending out the rejection emails first - so I think no news is good news.
Best of luck
I submitted mine 25th April and I’ve still had no answer. I’m seeing others get rejections and just keeping myself occupied so I’m not email watching and thinking that no news is good news🤞
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Rejected after the PA, completed it last Tuesday/Wednesday I think.

I recorded on my phone whilst completing it and shared it with a Captain at a different airline and he said it was reasonable. But I guess the competition is fierce and they undoubtedly are looking for something specific in it to make it easy to assess and compare. And he did counsel that it’s like a driving test where what you’d actually say and what they want you to say for this are not necessarily the same.

Alas wasn’t to be. Good luck to the people that deservedly get it. Might have been my only shot, we’ll see where I’m at in 12 months but I think I’ve got to commit to something now that probably won’t allow me to give it another go soon.

It’s good to see some older folk applying. At 28 I was thinking I was getting too old but it shows you can pivot at any point.
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Hello hello hello (sorry, couldn't help it!)
I've just turned 55 and this is my last chance - always loved aviation, but got caught in the career hamster wheel of life, and only because of my daughter I applied. So one and only chance for me as next time, I'll be too old!
I submitted the PA announcement the same day as you so please let me know when you hear back, good or bad news. I'll do the same and let you know - we can then see whether they're in submission order but it looks like they're sending out the rejection emails first - so I think no news is good news.
Best of luck


Thank you, I know that career Hamster wheel very well. I would be taking a significant pay cut but more than willing to in order to achieve my dream. I applied for a BA scholarship when I was doing my A levels all those years ago but the scheme was pulled due to the events of 9/11. I will keep you posted, I'm working on the assumption that no news is positive and they are waiting to collate all the passes to allocate the flight school preferences, of course I could be way off but that's what I'm hoping. Good luck to you too
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Rejected after the PA, completed it last Tuesday/Wednesday I think.

I recorded on my phone whilst completing it and shared it with a Captain at a different airline and he said it was reasonable. But I guess the competition is fierce and they undoubtedly are looking for something specific in it to make it easy to assess and compare. And he did counsel that it’s like a driving test where what you’d actually say and what they want you to say for this are not necessarily the same.

Alas wasn’t to be. Good luck to the people that deservedly get it. Might have been my only shot, we’ll see where I’m at in 12 months but I think I’ve got to commit to something now that probably won’t allow me to give it another go soon.

It’s good to see some older folk applying. At 28 I was thinking I was getting too old but it shows you can pivot at any point.
I'm sorry to hear that. I too at 29 fear the same but relieved there are others who are not fresh out of school!

I wish you luck, and thanks for sharing the update.
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Morning All,

I'm another who submitted their PAX announcements April 30th and has yet to hear back. Finger crossed.

I know its been addressed a couple of times already but I'm just trying to make sense of the potential assessment dates. Does anybody know, for sure, if it's an option between attending a virtual or in person assessment day? If taking the virtual option could this possibly have a negative impact?
I work off offshore at the moment and some of the dates available are when I'm on rotation. I'm trying to work out if I'll need to jump ship or not....if I even get lucky enough to be offered a spot.
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Morning All,

I'm another who submitted their PAX announcements April 30th and has yet to hear back. Finger crossed.

I know its been addressed a couple of times already but I'm just trying to make sense of the potential assessment dates. Does anybody know, for sure, if it's an option between attending a virtual or in person assessment day? If taking the virtual option could this possibly have a negative impact?
I work off offshore at the moment and some of the dates available are when I'm on rotation. I'm trying to work out if I'll need to jump ship or not....if I even get lucky enough to be offered a spot.
Hi there
I can only speak on last year's experiences - for all of the stages from first In person stage, you could choose between a few dates (usually spanning across a week or 2) for your assessments.

I don't think it makes a difference when you do it, as that would be very unfair to those that apply later. I remember that in the final stage, everyone completed it, and then they sat down on a panel of staff and looked through everyone's full profile/application, so I wouldn't worry about when you do it.

I believe you HAVE to attend an in-person day as they have to assess you properly for maths etc, minimising risk of cheating and whatnot.
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Morning All,

I'm another who submitted their PAX announcements April 30th and has yet to hear back. Finger crossed.

I know its been addressed a couple of times already but I'm just trying to make sense of the potential assessment dates. Does anybody know, for sure, if it's an option between attending a virtual or in person assessment day? If taking the virtual option could this possibly have a negative impact?
I work off offshore at the moment and some of the dates available are when I'm on rotation. I'm trying to work out if I'll need to jump ship or not....if I even get lucky enough to be offered a spot.
As per my understanding, there is no option.

You would have to do both, in person for the math assessments/Interview and virtual assessment for the aptitude tests.
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As a 30-something engineer, reading about all your varied backgrounds is really interesting!
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I don't think I've gone more than 15 minutes without refreshing my emails...

Anyone else?
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So far I'm the oldest at 55 so the rest of you have the luxury of having another go if you're not successful.

Yes, it's hard not to speculate about their processes but from the ones who have told us they have received their rejection emails, they have submitted before and after the likes of us who submitted on or around the 30th April. So on that basis, yes I'm speculating but can't help it, it's rejection emails regardless so if that's right, no news is definitely good news - the longer we don't hear anything the better the chances.

Having said that, if the first in-person assessment is on the 27th May (which is a Bank Holiday Monday (TUI ran their sim assessments over the weekend BTW)), and if they want to give 2 weeks' notice, then I reckon we'll all know one way or the other, by a week Friday (17th May) - on that speculative note, just over a week to go.

In terms of commitment, and we talked about what we're giving up, and our families to support us (which I applauded all those who are supporting you in any way or form), I'd be giving up a 6 figure salary to do this. I hope that demonstrates my motivation to BA. I start a new contract tomorrow for 6 months so if I pull this off, that'll take me to a holiday before Christmas and start in January. Wishful thinking I know, but there are always hopes and prayers

If I don't get through, I'm even considering the self-funded route as I'm going to pay for it one way or the other!

Best of luck team!
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