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Old 9th Jun 2017, 13:21
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Conversion from a Canadian PPL to EASA UK PPL

I have been searching around for information on this process for a while and still can't find a clear cut answer.
I'd like to convert my Canadian PPL(A) to an EASA PPL A in the UK. My TC medical is current, total time is around 300 hours, over 100 PIC, with night and multi engine ratings.

UK Class 2 medical is done and in hand, but it's the next step that is confusing. So far, the list of requirements I've come up with is:
- class 2 medical (done)
- complete 3 theory exams: (Air Law, Human Performance & Limitations, and Radiotelephony) - do I get some sort of certificate after completion of these?
- complete a flight skills test with a UK EASA examiner (any suggestions?)

Also, do I need to be current/revalidated in order to convert the license? According to the Canadian Aviation Regulations I'm not current to carry passengers anymore (6 month requirement - I have no take offs or landings in nearly a year), but fulfill the 5 year and 2 year requirements. I have let my Night and Multi Engine ratings lapse long ago, but at the moment I am just interested in converting the base PPL - any issue with that?

After the exams and flight test is completed, what paperwork do I have to send and to whom? A search of the CAA website revealed a ridiculously complex new form, SRG 2142 for 'Verification of third country ICAO license'. As far as I understand this applies only from July 1st this year, but I probably won't finish the above by then! There is no mention of any examination, flight time, or checkride requirements.. so more confusion.

If anyone has any advice or has gone through this process, your help is greatly appreciated!
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You'll need HPL and air law exams, plus you'll need an FRTOL, a medical and the skills test. Get in touch with a school or club and they'll help you out. You take the written exams with them and they'll want to fly a few times before they send you for test. Once you've got the flight test pass Certificate, you send it all to the CAA at Gatwick (theres a checklist on the application form of what you need to send) with money, and they'll send your a licence.
Skills test = check ride.
You'll need a valid licence, but don't worry about the 90 day rule, as to be PuT for training. If you've done 5 hours of night, you should get a night rating issued at the same time (as it's experience based, no test)
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Thanks for the info rudestuff.

So I did a bit more digging into the CAA website and I found the online applications section. I haven't found any information on which exams are required (is it really too much trouble for them to put all this kind of information onto a single page..) but I guess I was on the right track with Air Law and HPL, along with the radiotelephony and flight test.
As far as I can tell, I simply need to complete said exams, and then fill out the Course Completion Certificate (https://www.caa.co.uk/General-aviation/Pilot-licences/Applications/Licences/Online-application-forms/) and get it signed by my examiner? And then complete a flight test after some minimal training, and get the certificate from this. These two documents, plus certified copies of licenses, passport etc. - upload to the online application and then send?
Would it be a problem if I complete the theory at a different ATO than the flying bit?
Also, do I need to photocopy my whole logbook to upload, or only certain pages showing evidence for night time etc.?

Thanks again!
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I haven't found any information on which exams are required
Article 8 of the Aircrew Regulation confers a discretionary power on member states to grant Part-FCL licences, ratings, and certificates to holders of equivalent ICAO privileges subject to a basic set of conditions given in Annex III, parts B and C, of the Aircrew Regulation. The required exam papers are air law and human performance. Note there is no requirement for an FRTOL to be obtained however one is required to operate a UK aircraft radio.

Part C of Annex III establishes minimum requirements for the conversion of aircraft ratings and introduces a need to be "in current flying practice." This requirement is repeated on the CAA page you gave for Online Applications, in the last section 'converting from a third-country ICAO-compliant licence,' but it is not defined by UK or EU regulations or rules. If someone has knowledge of its practical definition then please post a comment. If not "in current flying practice" for a given rating then it may still be endorsed in the Part-FCL licence but will be restricted to Canadian aircraft. The CAR 401.05(2)(b) recency requirements made for carrying passengers are irrelevant.

It is important that your TC medical and booklet remain valid during the application process. The UK CAA website lists TCCA CAMEs here should revalidation in GB be needed. UK Information Notice 2017/021 (Verification of Third Country ICAO Licences) in para 3.5 states: "The CAA will not recognise an expired ICAO licence or medical certificate in any circumstance."

Only include certified copies of relevant logbook pages, i.e. those showing 100 hours of flight time as a pilot, any additional requirements necessitated by subpart H of Part-FCL (e.g. FCL.710), 100 hours of flight time in each aeroplane class whose rating is sought, etc. A certified copy of page 1 of your booklet should suffice in lieu of a passport. The radiotelephony examiner conducting your practical test for a UK FRTOL, equivalent to Industry Canada's ROC-A, is empowered to assess whether your English language proficiency is at the expert level. The Course Completion Certificate will be completed and signed by the head of training at your approved training organisation.

You might also consider using a UK/EASA logbook to accommodate information not normally logged in Canada such as departure and arrival times, number of landings and takeoffs, how many beers you're owed, etc.

Would it be a problem if I complete the theory at a different ATO than the flying bit?
See the response from Whopity in this recent thread: http://www.pprune.org/private-flying...ml#post9562360
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Bit of a side question: Would a Canadian PPL with 50hrs convert to a UK NPPL.. which in turn goes to an EASA LAPL?

I understand the FAA PPL (which is also an ICAO) goes to a UK NPPL unless you can go for the ICAO 100hr route. Wondering if the CA PPL is the same.
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