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Old 9th Feb 2017, 22:01
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Go onto the LAA website. There's a list of types of Annex 2 aircraft.
Do the LAA maintain an exhaustive and complete list of Annexe2 types? Their website only seems to give "examples" of such types.

Isn't the Bulldog a type which can be either CofA or Permit?
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Old 10th Feb 2017, 00:46
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Did you read the regulations for Annex 1 and Annex 2 before? Any Annex 1 can change to Annex 2, i.e. when getting equipped for scientific research. Back may be more complicated.
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No I didn't see that reference in the regulations where about in there was that please




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Did you read the regulations for Annex 1 and Annex 2 before? Any Annex 1 can change to Annex 2, i.e. when getting equipped for scientific research. Back may be more complicated.
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Old 10th Feb 2017, 07:32
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Did you read the regulations for Annex 1 and Annex 2 before? Any Annex 1 can change to Annex 2
You still haven't got it, have you? There is no such thing as an 'Annex 1' aircraft.
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Old 10th Feb 2017, 10:23
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Thanks for clearing up the confusion. As far as I can see there is the "EASA Product List" and the Annexe II to the Basic Regulation list of non-EASA aircraft.

I guess a lot of us got that one wrong and assumed there were 2 Annexes; one for EASA types and one for non-EASA types
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Old 10th Feb 2017, 10:38
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From the CAA on Non-EASA or "Annex II" aircraft:

Currently, Annex II includes:
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• Aircraft built or modified for scientific or novel purposes


= modify any EASA aircraft and you end up in "Annex II".
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Old 10th Feb 2017, 11:38
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Not necessarily. getting permission to modify an EASA aircraft for novel purposes would be pretty hard to come by and what is the definition of novel?

All of the aircraft I know that are modified for scientific purposes are still CofA aircraft as the scientific purposes are normally tied AOC work. I doubt very much you could modify your Cessna as a storm chaser and persaud the CAA to stick it on a permit...
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Old 10th Feb 2017, 12:02
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All of the aircraft I know that are modified for scientific purposes are still CofA aircraft as the scientific purposes are normally tied AOC work.
That may be the case, but the question was
Does anyone know if there any types of aircraft that The owner can choose to Be annex 1 or annex2 or easa/ non easa
which is independent of the fact that obviously these chose to not go Annex II, even though they could. The reasons may be manifold, but that is another story.
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Old 10th Feb 2017, 13:25
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I hate having to repeat myself.


Annex 2 aircraft are not all sub-ICAO. Plenty of them operate on a full (national, but still fully ICAO compliant ) CofA.

There are also sub-ICAO aeroplanes which are not Annex 2, and operate under EASA permits to fly.

Plenty of flight testing is done under EASA. These are not normally Annex 2.

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Old 10th Feb 2017, 14:18
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Some aircraft in Annex 2 can be either permit (LAA) or c of a. An example would be a Bulldog.

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