Eurostar vs Ikarus
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Eurostar vs Ikarus
So having made the decision to learn to fly I was faced with my first decision of "do I learn in the Eurostar or the Ikarus?" My school operate both. I tried both planes but found the control placement on the Ikarus awkward (flaps operated from above but a right handed control column and throttle between your legs) and I had to cross hands etc. on this basis I've selected the Eurostar (I also prefer the visibility of low wing and having flown gliders previously found the control placement more natural) but I've heard the Ikarus is more forgiving to fly?
Also I wondered how hard it is to convert to the unique control arrangement once I've attained my license?
All thoughts appreciated.
Also I wondered how hard it is to convert to the unique control arrangement once I've attained my license?
All thoughts appreciated.
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Just flown both this week for fun as a PPL(A)
Ikarus probably is more forgiving as controls not so "twitchy" for want of a better word as the Eurostar. Amazing obstacle climb at 48kts !!! Felt nearly vertical. And off the ground and climbing is very snappy.
Very quickly got used to the throttle and shared right stick. Putting 1st stage of flap not a problem. But 2nd (only 2 stages) was much harder... could have done with another 2" in arm length. But most males will find it no problem.
Interesting solution to the problem though, sharp nose up to release pressure on the flaps, whip the flap in, drop nose pronto to counter balance...
Blocked fuel line on final proved interesting... power off = prop stopped. but quick press of the starter button and away we went. Well until landed then idle again = no prop. Tower might have been wondering what was going on as a stop/start prop at least 3 times before exiting 1st right.
Eurostar certainly nippy. Personally miss not having a DI. Trim is very very responsive... but then more used to C150/152 and PA28's. Amazing sideslip though 2000ft/min with 45 degree bank. Would certainly get through that hole in the clouds!!!
Ikarus probably is more forgiving as controls not so "twitchy" for want of a better word as the Eurostar. Amazing obstacle climb at 48kts !!! Felt nearly vertical. And off the ground and climbing is very snappy.
Very quickly got used to the throttle and shared right stick. Putting 1st stage of flap not a problem. But 2nd (only 2 stages) was much harder... could have done with another 2" in arm length. But most males will find it no problem.
Interesting solution to the problem though, sharp nose up to release pressure on the flaps, whip the flap in, drop nose pronto to counter balance...
Blocked fuel line on final proved interesting... power off = prop stopped. but quick press of the starter button and away we went. Well until landed then idle again = no prop. Tower might have been wondering what was going on as a stop/start prop at least 3 times before exiting 1st right.
Eurostar certainly nippy. Personally miss not having a DI. Trim is very very responsive... but then more used to C150/152 and PA28's. Amazing sideslip though 2000ft/min with 45 degree bank. Would certainly get through that hole in the clouds!!!
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Stick with the choice you've made - for the reasons you've stated. If it feels right for you, then it is.
They are both fine training microlights, but personally I prefer the Eurostar. Yes it is a bit harder to master, but that makes it even more fun and satisfying. The C42 is the nearest thing in micro terms to a Cessna (and I don't mean that as a compliment).
Once you're trained you will find changing to a slightly different control arrangement (ie centre stick) no problem at all.
They are both fine training microlights, but personally I prefer the Eurostar. Yes it is a bit harder to master, but that makes it even more fun and satisfying. The C42 is the nearest thing in micro terms to a Cessna (and I don't mean that as a compliment).
Once you're trained you will find changing to a slightly different control arrangement (ie centre stick) no problem at all.
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Yes it was the second stage of flap that got me bouncing around all of the place on approach while trying to deploy it with my left arm lol. I'm sure these things will be easier once I'm trained but it felt awkward, hence I'm sticking to the Eurostar for now.. If this wind ever drops that is...
